Coronavirus Outbreak

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
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Bad memory lane. :-|
i miss the members, tho.

2021:
nett wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:40 pm
Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:04 pm
silentreader wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:41 pm Careful with the pronouns.
Clearly, far too few wom—err—walking cell clump incubators have been vaccinated against the virus.
:-|
"Science" is actually unable to use the word "women" anymore. It's completely crazy.
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2026

Tulsi Gabbard
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Tulsi-Gabbard


2026:
lifeuntox WROTE:
The declassified intelligence just released reveals something extraordinary about global biosecurity operations that most people never knew existed.

Tulsi Gabbard’s Friday disclosure exposes over 120 U.S.-funded biological research facilities spanning 30 countries,
with more than 40 labs in Ukraine alone housing Soviet-era pathogens including anthrax, plague, and Ebola.
These aren’t theoretical research sites but active facilities conducting gain-of-function research on avian flu strains under maximum biosafety protocols, which means they’re enhancing viral properties to make pathogens more transmissible for study purposes.


The timing creates a fascinating geopolitical puzzle because when Russia claimed bioweapons work was happening in 2022, U.S. officials dismissed it as disinformation. Now we have documented evidence of extensive CDC, USDA, university, and contractor collaborations that were operating exactly where Russia said they were. The declassified files don’t allege bioweapons development, but they do reveal serious oversight challenges in warzones where accountability becomes nearly impossible to maintain.

What makes this particularly significant is how it fulfills Trump’s executive order demanding transparency about risky foreign funding and gain-of-function research. Gabbard directly called out past officials like Fauci for denying these labs existed, which raises important questions about what else the public wasn’t told about biological research operations funded with taxpayer money.
2021:
Robert wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 12:04 pm https://www.foxnews.com/world/explosive ... ated-covid
A bombshell new study claims to have proof that Chinese scientists created COVID-19 in a lab and then tried to reverse-engineer versions of the virus to make it look like it evolved naturally from bats.

British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen wrote they’ve had primary evidence "of retro-engineering in China" since last year, but were ignored by academics and major medical journals, The Daily Mail reported Saturday, citing the soon-to-be-published study.

The study concludes: "the likelihood of it being the result of natural processes is very small." The virus is still killing 12,000 people a day around the world.

Dalgleish is a London oncology professor known for breakthrough work on a vaccine for HIV. Sørensen is a virologist and chair of the pharmaceutical company Immunor, which developed a coronavirus vaccine candidate called Biovacc-19. Dalgleish also has a financial stake in that company.

It was during their COVID-19 vaccine research that the pair came across "unique fingerprints" indicating the virus didn’t come from nature, they said. The telltale clue: a rare finding in the COVID-carrying virus of a row of four amino acids, which give off a positive charge and bond to negative human cells.

"The laws of physics mean that you cannot have four positively charged amino acids in a row," Dalgleish told the Daily Mail. "The only way you can get this is if you artificially manufacture it."

They also tracked published Chinese research, some done working with American universities, to show how the tools to create the virus were allegedly built. A good part of the work reviewed involved "gain of function" research, which involves manipulating natural viruses in a lab to make them more infectious, allowing scientists to study their potential effect on humans.

The U.S. put a moratorium on such research in 2014. But it’s impossible to know if $600,000 funding for medical research in China was used for gain of function research, Dr. Anthony Fauci told Congress last week.
This doesn't address dealing with Covid. We still have to do that no matter how it was created.
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t1, interesting how little press this got. Not to mention radio silence here on MN.

Turns out the “conspiracy theorists” were right this time.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2026 8:45 am t1, interesting how little press this got.
A cursory search shows that it was indeed covered by the media.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gabbar ... nformation
https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard- ... s-12066925
etc.

Here's the official release:
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/ ... 3-pr-10-26

Any of those (particularly the Newsweek article, which includes a map and more extensive analysis) would have been preferable to a clickbait Instagram post that starts with "just released" and "Friday disclosure" that might lead people to believe, in the absence of a date, that it was announced yesterday when it was in fact two weeks ago.
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Maybe i’m wrong to do this, but i routinely dismiss “headline language” to read content - i underlined content i felt was valuable, i have no way to correct or remove headline hyperbole. i dislike it as much as anyone.

One common headline trope i detest is, “SO+SO BREAKS HIS SILENCE!”
when, often, it may have been just hours or a day or so .. :roll:

i was vaguely aware this was not an immediate new release, but, still in the range of new. in my view.
not much discussed on it. for instance, in comparison to the thrilling D.C.fountains+reflecting pool.

i’m not at ease with how instagram works. i’m awkward with it.
i never know whether it’s going to open like this one, or present as a link.
i’m guessing the difference is the choice of the content provider? i don’t know.
sometimes i can’t get the link to open, at all.

i’m happy when others add additional viewpoints and sources. every post is an invitation to discuss, right? :)
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2026 10:56 am i have no way to correct or remove headline hyperbole. i dislike it as much as anyone.
It's always possible to include a disclaimer or correction in your post, or find another source. In this case, it's not so much a problem of hyperbole, it's the clickbait ("What they found will shock you") that indicates it's not serious journalism.
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ohio jones wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2026 11:21 am
temporal1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2026 10:56 am i have no way to correct or remove headline hyperbole. i dislike it as much as anyone.
It's always possible to include a disclaimer or correction in your post, or find another source. In this case, it's not so much a problem of hyperbole, it's the clickbait ("What they found will shock you") that indicates it's not serious journalism.
i often look for an alternate source, not always.
in the past, i completely dismissed “Shocking!” as a sure sign of tabloid content, i found it easy to ignore.

the internet fairly normalized tabloid journalism, much harder to avoid. ugh.
esp when msm so often implements their methods. :-|

i ignore/refuse to click on the vast majority of what appears, i presume others do, too.

example, MSNow must be worse than (Robert’s banned) CNN.
their headlines are so bad, so biased, i don’t open.

instagram is a different format, i have no idea how ro date anything on instagram.
i believed the Tulsi piece was recent, to repeat, i auto-dismiss the “shocking” headline language. i barely notice it anymore.
the content doesn’t continue it. that disconnect happens a lot.

i’ll think about how to add a short disclaimer for stupid headlines. maybe that’s it: stupid headline :?
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