US Attacks Iran 2026

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Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:57 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:50 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 1:20 am MB Ghalibaf is the Speaker of Iran’s Parliament. Iran understands the leverage they have.



Iran doesn’t have to win militarily. As the weaker party, they can make the cost of US’s actions as politically painful as possible. This is one form of asymmetrical warfare — Iran is throwing as many cogs into the gears to make the war costly to the US.

Iran is making a bet that their ability to absorb pain is greater than ours.
I seem to recall you claiming this was “election interference” on behalf of Russia (who is on Iran’s side, by the way.)
Huh?
You’re making a case that Iran is trying to influence the upcoming election.

Are you at all open to understanding that Iran and Russia are working together?
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JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:58 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:57 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:50 am

I seem to recall you claiming this was “election interference” on behalf of Russia (who is on Iran’s side, by the way.)
Huh?
You’re making a case that Iran is trying to influence the upcoming election.

Are you at all open to understanding that Iran and Russia are working together?
That’s not what I’m arguing. I’m talking about economic pressure and how it feeds back into domestic politics. It’s not covert election interference, it’s trying to win the war by putting pressure on Trump.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:09 am That’s not what I’m arguing. I’m talking about economic pressure and how it feeds back into domestic politics. It’s not covert election interference, it’s trying to win the war by putting pressure on Trump.
So, what do you think about the alliance between Iran and Russia?
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:42 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:36 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:30 pm The price of oil has already jumped up to over $100 a barrel today because of this announcement. If the US goes through with this blockade, it’s a global disruption. Everyone loses.
The blockade is simply of ships going to/from Iranian ports (and Iran has been under sanctions anyway); it's similar in vein to the sanctions on Russian oil.

If Iran wants the blockade to end, they could probably negotiate having it end if they'd stop blockading ships going to Bahrain, Qatar, etc.
Again, the dynamic is that both sides think they’re winning. The more pressure Trump puts on Iran, the more they resist. Iran knows the blockade affects gas prices in the US and they know a midterm election is coming in November. They’re aware that high gas prices will have political consequences for Trump and the Republican Party.
What matters is not what they say or think, but what is actually the case. And it seems to be actually the case that Iran is militarily down, but not out. It's hard to say that Iran has won in any sense, except that it still exists as a greatly diminished state.
Iranian missile launches dropped sharply from 428 on February 28, 2026, to an average of 10–39 per day by early March, a decline exceeding 90% due to destroyed launch infrastructure. Over 1,000 ballistic missiles and 2,200 drones were fired in the first few weeks, with daily averages now falling significantly.

Key Data Points: Iranian Missile Activity

Conflict Start (Feb 28/Mar 1): Over 400+ ballistic missiles were launched in the first 24-48 hours.

Initial Decline: By Day 5 (approx. March 5), daily ballistic missile launches dropped by 90%.Current Rate (March/April 2026): Daily rates decreased to an average of 10–39 missiles, with approximately 120–143 daily drone attacks, say reports.

Cumulative Total: Roughly 1,300 ballistic missiles have been launched since the conflict began.

Destruction: Around 60–66% of Iran's launch infrastructure has been destroyed, reducing their capacity for large-scale barrages.

The figures, largely tracking attacks against Israel and Gulf neighbors, represent data compiled from the Jewish Institute for National Security of America (JINSA) and official U.S./Israeli assessments.
It's also hard to say that the US has won, though, when shipping still is not free to use the strait of Hormuz, and when we don't know the actual status of Iran's nuclear program and enriched uranium stockpiles, if such exist, and what the status of its underground missile storage and launching capabilities might be. The problem with some of that is there might never be a definitive answer and the US will just declare victory and quit the area.

I think that a minimal victory in terms of the US stated goals would be an Iran that doesn't bother other countries for the next 20-40 years. The problem is that even if that happens, it of course won't be immediately known and won't lend itself to anybody's political benefit or grandiose claims of a quick success.
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Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:08 am
temporal1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 6:39 am
Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 5:52 am Its their only winning strategy left really... of course if they somehow survive then the nuke is a forgone conclusion to be a major priority.
It’s a fool’s errand to presume the future, there is always the unknown, as scriptures and world history aptly reflect.
“Time will tell” endures. Hopefully, with prayers for God’s will, not our own.

NY POST / How the US will clear Iran’s mines in the Strait of Hormuz
https://nypost.com/2026/04/12/world-new ... of-hormuz/
US retired the dedicated mine sweepers and replaced them with the LCS which are apparently... a waste of money. Some people have been saying the destroyers did the sweeping which is not in their role.
Knifefish Unmanned Undersea Vehicle is one of the anti mine weapons the US has and its generally launched from... the LCS.

Its possible those LCS's are actually deployed there, there are 10 total in active service from what I know and I believe two are stationed in the middle east area.
As an interesting note, the US prior mine sweeper was made partially out of wood, the Avenger and could actually handle a near underwater detonation. These new LCS work only if they avoid the mines which is possible but regardless, both ships would take days to properly sweep the strait to remove the majority of mines if there even are any.
Thanks. i read somewhere mines are cheap to build? They’re a hazard to all, i would think even those building+planting them? The will to harm can run deep. The will to harm is the foundation of terrorism.

Terrorists can be really cheap. 9-11-2001 was a prime example.
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:13 amThanks. i read somewhere mines are cheap to build? They’re a hazard to all, i would think even those building+planting them? The will to harm can run deep. The will to harm is the foundation of terrorism.

Terrorists can be really cheap. 9-11-2001 was a prime example.
Mines in particular are quite asymmetric, which is why civilised countries have generally enacted treaties against using them. The Soviet Union would never do this, though, so America never did either, although American policy is not to use mines unless absolutely necessary.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:09 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:09 am That’s not what I’m arguing. I’m talking about economic pressure and how it feeds back into domestic politics. It’s not covert election interference, it’s trying to win the war by putting pressure on Trump.
So, what do you think about the alliance between Iran and Russia?
It’s obvious they’ve been allies for a long time.

That doesn’t change my point that one of the ways a weaker state in a military conflict tries to win is leverage economic pressure to affect domestic politics.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:22 am That doesn’t change my point that one of the ways a weaker state in a military conflict tries to win is leverage economic pressure to affect domestic politics.
I would agree that Russia has been trying to interfere in U.S. politics for quite some time, and this time is no different. Do you agree?
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JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:50 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 1:20 am MB Ghalibaf is the Speaker of Iran’s Parliament. Iran understands the leverage they have.



Iran doesn’t have to win militarily. As the weaker party, they can make the cost of US’s actions as politically painful as possible. This is one form of asymmetrical warfare — Iran is throwing as many cogs into the gears to make the war costly to the US.

Iran is making a bet that their ability to absorb pain is greater than ours.
I seem to recall you claiming this was “election interference” on behalf of Russia (who is on Iran’s side, by the way.)
I keep in mind those on the forum who were wrong in many ways and wrong predictions so credibility is somewhat lost from the elections, pandemic, Covid vaccines, etc, I can take comments with a grain of salt.

I do believe IRAN will NEVER give up its intent and honestly from what it sounds like, neither does Trump, but he’s just playing this out towards what he believes he has to do.
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mike:
.. I think that a minimal victory in terms of the US stated goals would be
an Iran that doesn't bother other countries for the next 20-40 years.
^^Time will tell ..
mike:
.. The problem is that even if that happens, it of course won't be immediately known and won't lend itself to anybody's political benefit or grandiose claims of a quick success.
^^Flamboyant, extreme language and posturng are social media’s baseline.
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