2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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I'm reminded of what Lee Strobel concluded after his campaign to prove that God didn't exist.

Lee Strobel set out to debunk, one at a time, every evidence proposed by believers for why there is a God. He had some success in casting doubt on each individual claim of evidence for the existence of God.

But one day he woke up and said, "It shouldn't need to be this hard to disprove the existence of God. Look at all the effort I am expending overall, in order to defend and advance my campaign."

“I realized that if I were to embrace . . . naturalism I would have to believe that:
• Nothing produces everything
• Non-life produces life
• Randomness produces fine-tuning
• Chaos produces information
• Unconsciousness produces consciousness
• Non-reason produces reason”

When people expend great effort to defend a political figure, a political team, a political movement, or a political narrative, and need to shut their eyes to strong evidence that goes against that narrative, a person has reason to wonder why so much energy is needed to defend something that is unlikely or even absurd.
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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:15 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 7:20 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 2:55 pm

And since when are they the censors? I think the First Amendment covers that sufficiently.
It’s not that they are censoring but wait till it’s verified-
Seems wise advice
Hint: Our government will never verfy it, even if it is truly at fault. It can only be"win."
Yes it will.
But until it is verified it’s not wise to spread it as if it is.
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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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Ernie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:25 pm When people expend great effort to defend a political figure, a political team, a political movement, or a political narrative, and need to shut their eyes to strong evidence that goes against that narrative, a person has reason to wonder why so much energy is needed to defend something that is unlikely or even absurd.
There's a huge gap between the above and the simple observation that terrorist states are notorious for using these tactics. It's been part and parcel of how Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas have operated for a long time.

Ultimately, deciding to place a girls' school inside a military complex is not some kind of simple trick you can use to avoid any consequences for deciding to becoming a nuclear-armed terrorist state. The people at fault are the IRGC. They decided to engage in extreme belligerence and now have to face the consequences. And yes, that includes the consequences for doing their very best to try to attract weapons fire to harm children and civilians.
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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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Soloist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 5:18 pm So US bases with daycares, school and hospitals are of course different.

Might it be a protection mindset against those who don’t want school for girls? Might it be economics? It could of course be for future propaganda.
The U.S. doesn't have a history of trying to use schools, hospitals, etc as (a) launching sites for missiles, and (b) trying to draw attacks towards then for propaganda purposes.

Like it or not, the Iranian regime does.
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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:38 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:15 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 7:20 pm

It’s not that they are censoring but wait till it’s verified-
Seems wise advice
Hint: Our government will never verfy it, even if it is truly at fault. It can only be"win."
Yes it will.
But until it is verified it’s not wise to spread it as if it is.
Would you say the same thing if Biden or Obama were president? I have my doubts.
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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:15 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:38 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:15 pm
Hint: Our government will never verfy it, even if it is truly at fault. It can only be"win."
Yes it will.
But until it is verified it’s not wise to spread it as if it is.
Would you say the same thing if Biden or Obama were president? I have my doubts.
I don’t believe in spreading possible lies so yes.
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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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JohnH wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 10:36 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 5:18 pm So US bases with daycares, school and hospitals are of course different.

Might it be a protection mindset against those who don’t want school for girls? Might it be economics? It could of course be for future propaganda.
The U.S. doesn't have a history of trying to use schools, hospitals, etc as (a) launching sites for missiles, and (b) trying to draw attacks towards then for propaganda purposes.

Like it or not, the Iranian regime does.
You are conflating the tactic of Hamas with the Iranian state. Can you give me an example of them doing this? I can’t find any.

We are not talking about Hamas or Hezboallah here.
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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:17 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:15 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:38 pm

Yes it will.
But until it is verified it’s not wise to spread it as if it is.
Would you say the same thing if Biden or Obama were president? I have my doubts.
I don’t believe in spreading possible lies so yes.
Would you like me to look at old posts for examples?
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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:19 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:17 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:15 pm

Would you say the same thing if Biden or Obama were president? I have my doubts.
I don’t believe in spreading possible lies so yes.
Would you like me to look at old posts for examples?
Whatever suits you JM! If it is so important to you, LOL.
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Re: 2026 Minab school airstrike in Iran

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I once read an argument that blamed the devastation of the US firebombing of Tokyo during World War II on the Japanese for using wood as a primary construction material. Japan made itself vulnerable, the argument goes, by building paper and wood houses that the US military knew would cause a firestorm when bombed with incendiary bombs. By that logic it was Japan’s fault that 80,000 - 100,000 civilians were killed one night during Operation Meetinghouse.

I also once had an argument with someone who defended the firebombing of Dresden because they had a rail yard and some manufacturing even Allied bombing focused on the city center.

It ceases to amaze me the lengths some people will go to justify the righteousness of their favored side’s ability to kill. Our side is fundamentally good and righteous. Their side is evil and cruel.

So now the argument is that Iran should somehow have known that the US was going to bomb a girl’s school located next to military base. Wow. That’s chilling.

The fact that justification exists does not make killing morally clean.
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