Bunny Trails

[ken_sylvania]

I never claimed that diesel smoke is on foods.

I only asked why people were worried about wood smoke residue on foods like smoked cheese when there are so many other more dangerous carcinogens out there in our lives such as breathing diesel smoke if you work around diesel machinery or frankly, near any highway.

Ohhhhh, reallyyyyyy?

Diesel smoke is more carcinogenic than wood smoke, especially in the trace amounts that remains in foods after smoking.

Since you can't seem to get my meaning from the context:

Diesel smoke is more carcinogenic than wood smoke, especially the trace amounts [of wood smoke] that remains in foods after smoking.

Thank you for the clarification!!!! I suppose (from the context) that you mean to say "the trace amounts that remains"?

[Ken]

Ohhhhh, reallyyyyyy?

Since you can't seem to get my meaning from the context:

Diesel smoke is more carcinogenic than wood smoke, especially the trace amounts [of wood smoke] that remains in foods after smoking.

Thank you for the clarification!!!! I suppose (from the context) that you mean to say "the trace amounts that remains"?

What I meant to say was that breathing diesel exhaust is more dangerous than eating smoked gouda. Or at least the cancer risk posed by the wood smoke residue on the cheese that give smoked gouda its flavor. Although I suppose if you ate enough smoked gouda that could be unhealthy too. But then it is the cheese itself that is the problem, not the smoke residue on the cheese.

The implication is that people who work around diesel machinery are probably at far greater cancer risk from the diesel exhaust they breathe than the smoked food they eat.

Everything in life poses some health risk. But we should prioritize those risks that are more serious over than those that are trivial.

[R7ehr]

Just way too much carcinogens when you mix diesel and cheese and smoke. Cheese and wine, yes. They go together.
But we simply don’t see many turophiles among the diesel operator class.

[R7ehr]

Everything in life poses some health risk. But we should prioritize those risks that are more serious over than those that are trivial.

I agree 100%. That is why I support certain child labor opportunities, and I don’t support child genital mutilation.

[JohnL]

This is hilarious. The distractions of online conversations take on a life of their own.

To smoke or not to smoke that is the question!
Whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the haze and risks of smoking food for family and friends or to heed the dubious government warnings about culinary predilections.

[JohnH]

https://truett.edu/news/archive/true-st ... -blaurock/

Many of us know about George Blaurock, how he was a strong man who took over a pulpit in a local church. It seems to me that in the last few years, I heard someone say that either Blaurock admitted this might not have been the right thing to do, or else some other contemporary Anabaptists questioned his action. Can anybody verify this for me or did I remember something incorrectly?

I felt the Lord had asked me to get up and speak, after a baptism, at a nearby Mennonite church (not my own). I wrestled with this for weeks and days, even thinking of not attending the baptism, or else "chickening out" and not getting up and speaking

Driving over there, and sitting in the pews, I felt more fear rise inside me, and then I felt the Spirit moving on me.. asking me if I could display the courage of George Blaurock.. who got up and preached the Bible.. and was executed ultimately for it. Could I show enough courage to simply get up and speak in a Mennonite church?

Ultimately I did, although the person running the "call in" shut me off and muted me out of fear what I would say. I read Hebrews 13:17, Luke 15:1-7, 1 Timothy 3:1, Acts 15:1, and James 5:19 (I think I ran out of time for one of those verses but can't remember which one). Here are the Bible verses:

Hebrews 13:17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.

Luke 15:1-7 Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”
3 Then Jesus told them this parable: 4 “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5 And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6 and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ 7 I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

1 Timothy 3:1 This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a [a]bishop, he desires a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 3 not given to wine, not violent, [c]not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not [d]covetous; 4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence 5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); 6 not a [e]novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

Acts 15:1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the

 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

James 5:19 19 My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

My heart and conviction was to plead with the congregation to stay true to the newly baptised members, caring about their souls especially if they should stray in the future. And also to respect their ordained leaders, instead of rebelling against them. Likewise to respect the office of "bishop" which a (deceased) person had filibustered against in that congregation for decades, so the office sat empty.

For my efforts, an elderly woman in that church expressed her disapproval because she did not approve of how I was dressed, which was puzzling since I wore the same clothes other people normally wear there. (Slacks, button down short sleeve short, brown non-tennis shoes.) She and another person asked that I be banned from visiting their church again.

Oddly enough, the minister at that church thanked me for what I had to say, as did three of the newly baptised members.

I would do it again, but perhaps I would pack my finest black wool dress pants, freshly shined black shoes, and speak with a little more conviction.

The cowardice of the person who muted me still dismays me. I did not speak to the "scandal" at all, but I am not sure how muting someone from an online stream helps anything. If anything, it makes it look like there is something to hide. It is unfortunately a matter of public record, due to a court trial and conviction... whatever is hidden... will be proclaimed from the housetops... hidden sin cannot be hidden from God... but no, I was not the one called to reveal it...

[ken_sylvania]

https://truett.edu/news/archive/true-st ... -blaurock/

Many of us know about George Blaurock, how he was a strong man who took over a pulpit in a local church. It seems to me that in the last few years, I heard someone say that either Blaurock admitted this might not have been the right thing to do, or else some other contemporary Anabaptists questioned his action. Can anybody verify this for me or did I remember something incorrectly?

I felt the Lord had asked me to get up and speak, after a baptism, at a nearby Mennonite church (not my own). I wrestled with this for weeks and days, even thinking of not attending the baptism, or else "chickening out" and not getting up and speaking

Driving over there, and sitting in the pews, I felt more fear rise inside me, and then I felt the Spirit moving on me.. asking me if I could display the courage of George Blaurock.. who got up and preached the Bible.. and was executed ultimately for it. Could I show enough courage to simply get up and speak in a Mennonite church?

Ultimately I did, although the person running the "call in" shut me off and muted me out of fear what I would say. I read Hebrews 13:17, Luke 15:1-7, 1 Timothy 3:1, Acts 15:1, and James 5:19 (I think I ran out of time for one of those verses but can't remember which one). Here are the Bible verses:

Hebrews 13:17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.

Luke 15:1-7 Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”
3 Then Jesus told them this parable: 4 “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5 And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6 and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ 7 I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

1 Timothy 3:1 This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a [a]bishop, he desires a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 3 not given to wine, not violent, [c]not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not [d]covetous; 4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence 5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); 6 not a [e]novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

Acts 15:1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the

 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

James 5:19 19 My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

My heart and conviction was to plead with the congregation to stay true to the newly baptised members, caring about their souls especially if they should stray in the future. And also to respect their ordained leaders, instead of rebelling against them. Likewise to respect the office of "bishop" which a (deceased) person had filibustered against in that congregation for decades, so the office sat empty.

For my efforts, an elderly woman in that church expressed her disapproval because she did not approve of how I was dressed, which was puzzling since I wore the same clothes other people normally wear there. (Slacks, button down short sleeve short, brown non-tennis shoes.) She and another person asked that I be banned from visiting their church again.

Oddly enough, the minister at that church thanked me for what I had to say, as did three of the newly baptised members.

I would do it again, but perhaps I would pack my finest black wool dress pants, freshly shined black shoes, and speak with a little more conviction.

The cowardice of the person who muted me still dismays me. I did not speak to the "scandal" at all, but I am not sure how muting someone from an online stream helps anything. If anything, it makes it look like there is something to hide. It is unfortunately a matter of public record, due to a court trial and conviction... whatever is hidden... will be proclaimed from the housetops... hidden sin cannot be hidden from God... but no, I was not the one called to reveal it...

I thought for sure Mike posted this exact same thing just minutes ago.....
must be my eyes are playing tricks on me.

[mike]

I thought for sure Mike posted this exact same thing just minutes ago.....

Mike is very green at properly using mod tools and should have his salary docked appropriately. The post was originally made by JohnH or a different person of the same name , and was moved here by request of the thread author.

[ken_sylvania]

I thought for sure Mike posted this exact same thing just minutes ago.....

Mike is very green at properly using mod tools and should have his salary docked appropriately. The post was originally made by JohnH or a different person of the same name , and was moved here by request of the thread author.

Yes, I think Mike should have his salary docked by 25% for one week.

Afterward I recommend a 50% raise for his outstanding moderation.

[ken_sylvania]

Mike is very green

I hadn't realized before that Mike has his own avatar on this board. Does anyone know which of the smilies is Robert's avatar?