Excessive violence in schools

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
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Josh wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:29 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:05 pm
RZehr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:02 am I think it’s not a bad deal to stop schooling at an age where young men are more powerful than the teachers.
Maybe the old way of getting out at 8th grade and learning to work with other adult men actually has some upsides.
Coincidentally.

Arkansas is rolling back child labor protections
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arkansas-c ... e-sanders/

Arkansas Gov. Sarah Sanders Just Signed A Law That Will Roll Back Child Labor Protections
The governor’s office called the work permit process “an arbitrary burden,” but the federal solicitor of labor said children shouldn’t be allowed to work dangerous jobs, “full stop.”
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/pa ... s-rollback
My grandpa worked full time at age 12. He was a fully formed adult by age 15… and he did very dangerous work.

Lived into his 80s.
Is that what you want for your kids? To leave school at age 12 and start working full time. And get married by age 15?
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Josh

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I admire the way my grandparents lived very much. It would be wonderful if their degree of hard work, grit, and determination could be restored.

However, I foresee my children going thru 8th grade and the working and getting married around 18 - 20, like everyone else in church does.
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Follow up from P.22 violent incident:

Florida / “Judge issues permanent injunction against Matanzas High School student accused in attack”
A judge on Thursday issued a permanent injunction against Brendan Depa who is accused in attack on teacher's aide at Matanzas High School
https://www.news-journalonline.com/vide ... 435013002/
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temporal1

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Josh wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:19 pm I admire the way my grandparents lived very much. It would be wonderful if their degree of hard work, grit, and determination could be restored.

However, I foresee my children going thru 8th grade and the working and getting married around 18 - 20, like everyone else in church does.
From what i understand about the Arkansas change, it involves paperwork, does not threaten safety of minors.
The idea that “every student must graduate with a 4 year degree” (or else they’re a loser) is destructive. With gov guaranteed student loans, it certainly serves banks and universities! Too often leaving propagandized students holding a big bag of debt.

Before indoctrinating students with “you MUST have a college degree!” They need serious lessons on the grave aspects of debt, and personal responsibility for debt. Anything short of this is a lie. (Lies by omission of facts.) No matter how popular.

Millions of “uninitiated” migrants will impact cultural and economic realities in the U.S.
There is no instant/magical change of cultural differences (like that of older minors seen as young adults, capable of gainful employment for their families).

For some years, many have been questioning the “one size fits all” education model.
Regardless, the cultural lie that “4 year degree, minimum, or you’re a loser” mentality needs to go.

It will be interesting to see how brand-new Governor Sanders does in office:

Sarah Huckabee Sanders is the 47th Governor of Arkansas.
https://governor.arkansas.gov/about/governor-sanders/
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Josh

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temporal1,

Notice how the liberals simultaneously tell us how important every child going through 12th grade plus college…

and then tell us we desperately need a flood of uneducated illegal aliens to fill jobs.
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temporal1

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Josh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:25 am temporal1,
Notice how the liberals simultaneously tell us how important every child going through 12th grade plus college…
and then tell us we desperately need a flood of uneducated illegal aliens to fill jobs.
o.yes. i’ve noticed.
that is, for children allowed to live.
add to your point, the desperation to 1) wholesale prevent/exterminate the unborn legal citizens, all socio-economic status, then 2) cry for need of illegals for numbers .. also raises eyebrows.

prevent/kill your own children, so as to claim twisted high moral ground for providing for others’ children.
you cannot make this up.

It’s devastation to U.S. families AND families left behind elsewhere, for “the American Dream.” The now godless dream.

The degreed blind leading tempting the uneducated blind.
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Josh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:25 am temporal1,

Notice how the liberals simultaneously tell us how important every child going through 12th grade plus college…

and then tell us we desperately need a flood of uneducated illegal aliens to fill jobs.
So we don't have to worry because your uneducated kids will do those low-wage jobs?
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Ken wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:14 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:25 am temporal1,

Notice how the liberals simultaneously tell us how important every child going through 12th grade plus college…

and then tell us we desperately need a flood of uneducated illegal aliens to fill jobs.
So we don't have to worry because your uneducated kids will do those low-wage jobs?
Perhaps the so called “uneducated” and “immigrants” don’t need to be doing the “low wage” jobs the elites think they should be doing.

Perhaps the elites should have their own children taking care of them when they are aged, cleaning their houses and so forth.
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Josh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:29 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:14 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:25 am temporal1,

Notice how the liberals simultaneously tell us how important every child going through 12th grade plus college…

and then tell us we desperately need a flood of uneducated illegal aliens to fill jobs.
So we don't have to worry because your uneducated kids will do those low-wage jobs?
Perhaps the so called “uneducated” and “immigrants” don’t need to be doing the “low wage” jobs the elites think they should be doing.

Perhaps the elites should have their own children taking care of them when they are aged, cleaning their houses and so forth.
Elites can pay for any private assistance they need. Nurses, gardeners, maids, cooks, etc.

It will be the non-elites who suffer if there are not enough people to work at ordinary nursing homes or do home health care at Medicaid wages. Especially in less desirable rural areas.
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Josh

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Ken wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:37 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:29 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:14 pm

So we don't have to worry because your uneducated kids will do those low-wage jobs?
Perhaps the so called “uneducated” and “immigrants” don’t need to be doing the “low wage” jobs the elites think they should be doing.

Perhaps the elites should have their own children taking care of them when they are aged, cleaning their houses and so forth.
Elites can pay for any private assistance they need. Nurses, gardeners, maids, cooks, etc.

It will be the non-elites who suffer if there are not enough people to work at ordinary nursing homes or do home health care at Medicaid wages. Especially in less desirable rural areas.
No, it’s the non-elites who suffer right now when their wages are completely hollowed out by employers who import scabs.
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