Can we make MN less hostile?

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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I've conceded to situations where maybe I should have stuck up for myself.
A peacemeaker often takes the hit.
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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:21 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Nett and Josh are free to post whatever they want and I'm free to ignore them. I don't know what they're like in real life, but I see a number of red flags with their online behavior here on MN.
What, exactly, do you mean by “red flags” here? Speak clearly and plainly.
better get your anglo-saxon translator ready.
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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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Robert wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:36 am
steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:32 am I've conceded to situations where maybe I should have stuck up for myself.
A peacemeaker often takes the hit.
Turns one into a scapegoat, too.
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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:21 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Nett and Josh are free to post whatever they want and I'm free to ignore them. I don't know what they're like in real life, but I see a number of red flags with their online behavior here on MN.
What, exactly, do you mean by “red flags” here? Speak clearly and plainly.
I'm not sure if a list of grievances is helpful here. I prefer to avoid interaction with you most of the time.
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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:50 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:21 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Nett and Josh are free to post whatever they want and I'm free to ignore them. I don't know what they're like in real life, but I see a number of red flags with their online behavior here on MN.
What, exactly, do you mean by “red flags” here? Speak clearly and plainly.
I'm not sure if a list of grievances is helpful here. I prefer to avoid interaction with you most of the time.

Vague statements like this are inflammatory.
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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:50 pm
I'm not sure if a list of grievances is helpful here. I prefer to avoid interaction with you most of the time.
One can always private message. Often that is best to sort things out.
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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:50 pm I'm not sure if a list of grievances is helpful here.
Festivus is this Friday, if you change your mind.
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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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Could we establish clear criteria for what we mean by "hostility" and "toxic"?

Would the moderators be willing to remove posts that meet those criteria, as on many other social media platforms? Or is there some other way to intervene? Without that, I don't think we can make MN less hostile.

For instance, I think "here's what's wrong with you" and promoting negative stereotypes about other people who are here is clearly toxic. If someone expresses a feeling, telling that person that their feelings don't matter is clearly toxic. Would anyone disagree with that?
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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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Robert wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:52 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:50 pm I'm not sure if a list of grievances is helpful here. I prefer to avoid interaction with you most of the time.
One can always private message. Often that is best to sort things out.
I'm not addressing this to anyone in particular, but sometimes private messages are useless because someone actually gets something out of being hostile - they are playing to an audience.
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Re: Can we make MN less hostile?

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Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:19 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:50 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:21 am

What, exactly, do you mean by “red flags” here? Speak clearly and plainly.
I'm not sure if a list of grievances is helpful here. I prefer to avoid interaction with you most of the time.

Vague statements like this are inflammatory.
I'm not trying to be inflammatory, I just don't think that posting all the things I don't like about Josh is helpful.
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