Cheering+funding felony crime.

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Re: Cheering+funding felony crime.

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6:14 min mark -
he shares a “loop” of (reckless) rhetoric that has become all too prevalent (esp wrt hating Trump) then believing there are no boundaries in expressing their hate. Beyond the point of cheering assassination attempts. :cry:

https://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php?t=8867
https://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php?t=8866

too many seem ignorant they have souls to guard. :cry:

it’s particularly painful (to me) to see females all-in with this.
see, years ago, one important “selling point” for “feminism”, equal rights, voting, being in workplaces, was that women had special senses of morality, judgment, etc.

i’m not seeing it on the internet, not in lib politics, not wrt foul language .. :cry:
not with verbal aggression.

Walter Hudson / ”Why Respected People Are Celebrating a Trump Assassination Attempt” / -26min


i didn’t realize what an awful (reality) Luigi Mangione exposed. Actng out on the most COWARDLY violence.
(OP, a year ago.)

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Texas

CBS / Karmelo Anthony
found guilty of murder in fatal stabbing of Frisco student Austin Metcalf
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/karm ... -stabbing/
A Collin County jury found Karmelo Anthony guilty of murder in the fatal stabbing of 17-year-old Austin Metcalf during a Frisco ISD track meet, bringing an end to a closely watched trial that drew national attention and sparked debate over self-defense, race and school safety.

Anthony, now 19, had been charged in the April 2, 2025, killing of Metcalf at Kuykendall Stadium in Frisco.
Prosecutors argued Anthony intentionally stabbed Metcalf during an altercation between the two teenagers, while defense attorneys contended Anthony acted in self-defense.

The jury reached its verdict after hearing testimony from dozens of witnesses over several days, including students who witnessed the confrontation, law enforcement investigators, medical experts and character witnesses called by the defense.

Anthony was arrested shortly after the stabbing and charged with murder.
On Tuesday, during closing arguments, Judge John Roach allowed the jury to consider a lesser manslaughter charge.

Prosecutors said Metcalf and Anthony attended different schools and did not know each other before the encounter.
Authorities said the confrontation began near a team tent area before Anthony stabbed Metcalf once in the chest.

Metcalf was transported to a hospital, where he later died from his injuries.

The trial now moves to its sentencing phase.

Under a murder guilty verdict, Anthony faces a punishment range of five to 99 years or life in prison.
A manslaughter conviction would have carried a sentence of two to 20 years in prison. .. ..
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Victim: Austin Metcalf, 17
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T1, did I miss something, I didn't see any cheering or funding of felony crime in that account.
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barnhart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:46 am T1, did I miss something, I didn't see any cheering or funding of felony crime in that account.
Perhaps she meant this

https://www.givesendgo.com/helpkarmelo

(Although admittedly the family seems to have spent it all, so maybe they aren’t funding any more crime.)

Or perhaps she means this:

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JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 10:03 am
barnhart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:46 am T1, did I miss something, I didn't see any cheering or funding of felony crime in that account.
Perhaps she meant this

https://www.givesendgo.com/helpkarmelo

(Although admittedly the family seems to have spent it all, so maybe they aren’t funding any more crime.)
I think we are at the point that ideology and partisanship often trumps guilt and innocence. Especially on both sides of the political spectrum. Neither side believes that they are cheering or funding felony crime, they basically don't believe their political faction can be guilty, and they are convinced the other political faction is.

Sometimes this literally involves political figures issuing pardons for people who have been convicted of felonies, then doing things to funnel money to them or employ them in sensitive positions in government. I don't think the people who are doing this think they are cheering and funding felony crime. But this time around, enough Republicans found this outrageous and killed a 1.8 Billion dollar slush fund established specifically for this purpose.

I think we really need to leave these things in the hands of the courts. Politicians are always going to be political. In today's polarized world, that really can mean enabling felons who hate one's political enemies just as much as "we" do. And that's dangerous.
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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 11:09 am I think we are at the point that ideology and partisanship often trumps guilt and innocence. Especially on both sides of the political spectrum. Neither side believes that they are cheering or funding felony crime, they basically don't believe their political faction can be guilty, and they are convinced the other political faction is.
Err... I don't think this is "ideology" or "partisanship", Bootstrap, although it certainly does seem like a faction. I'm not even sure I'd go so far as to call it a "political" faction. Perhaps you might make a guess as to what faction you think it is.
Sometimes this literally involves political figures issuing pardons for people who have been convicted of felonies, then doing things to funnel money to them or employ them in sensitive positions in government.
That has nothing to do with the topic in question, which is about a first-degree murder. The last pardon in the last 14 years for something outside of a warzone was Biden pardoning an 80 year old woman who killed her husband in a domestic dispute.

This is quite different.
I don't think the people who are doing this think they are cheering and funding felony crime. But this time around, enough Republicans found this outrageous and killed a 1.8 Billion dollar slush fund established specifically for this purpose.
Yes they are. They are raising $600,000 for it, and then bitterly protesting when someone is convicted of first-degree murder (a fairly hard conviction to get).
I think we really need to leave these things in the hands of the courts.
I would agree, which is why I think temporal1 is bothered by cheering and funding felony crime, although sometimes the courts do a very poor job of dealing with violent offenders.

I have an acquaintance who has had to deal with a violent, abusive spouse who at one point tried to choke him to death and showed up with her boyfriend-of-the-week who participated in the assault. For this, she ended up getting a 6-day sentence for a plea down to criminal mischief. I think that's a problem when the court system works that way and that justice often doesn't happen.
Politicians are always going to be political. In today's polarized world, that really can mean enabling felons who hate one's political enemies just as much as "we" do. And that's dangerous.
I'm not sure any politicians have even chimed in on this case yet, other than Jasmine Crockett, who is a bit "out there" in general.

I think you should be a little more clear on what, exactly, the polarisation here is.
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barnhart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:46 am T1, did I miss something, I didn't see any cheering or funding of felony crime in that account.
Karmelo’s name shows up 10 times in this topic, including P.1, OP.
This report is added info.

Aside from that, i’m wondering if the recent SPLC case will affect response to this judgment/sentencing. :-|
https://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php?t=8861

There are no winners in these cases. Everyone loses.
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 2:46 pm
barnhart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:46 am T1, did I miss something, I didn't see any cheering or funding of felony crime in that account.
Karmelo’s name shows up 10 times in this topic, including P.1, OP.
This report is added info.
I see. Is your theory that the fundraising for his defense is a mockery of a felony crime?
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barnhart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 4:18 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 2:46 pm
barnhart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:46 am T1, did I miss something, I didn't see any cheering or funding of felony crime in that account.
Karmelo’s name shows up 10 times in this topic, including P.1, OP.
This report is added info.
I see. Is your theory that the fundraising for his defense is a mockery of a felony crime?
i’d like to think that thinking is beneath you.
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 4:26 pm
barnhart wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 4:18 pmI see. Is your theory that the fundraising for his defense is a mockery of a felony crime?
i’d like to think that thinking is beneath you.
That's the Social Media approach.

Weigh in on all kinds of things know little about, at the top of our lungs, as though some foreign army is about ready to take over. Treat the courts as irrelevant. Raise funds for people who commit felonies if their politics align with ours, if we like to hate the people they like to hate, then they must be innocent. If the courts found them guilty based on the evidence, it's a travesty.

I think the Bible has a lot to say about that.

And let's face it, it involves a lot of cheering for felony crime. And sometimes funding it. Across the political spectrum.
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