Demands to Denounce

[ken_sylvania]

Before i posted that I havent looked at Grace’s posts much, I went to her account and the most active subforum she is on is Politics… i skimmed about the last 5 pages of her posts in politics and its all bashing democrats and talking about the good Trump has done…

This shame of accepting a political label is a mystery to me

You have incorrectly described Grace's conduct and position on this forum, then.

I think it's important we speak truthfully about other people on this forum instead of just making stuff up.

Is the Anthony guy real or is he a bot? One would think a human would know better than to make up things that are so easily disproven.

[Soloist]

Before i posted that I havent looked at Grace’s posts much, I went to her account and the most active subforum she is on is Politics… i skimmed about the last 5 pages of her posts in politics and its all bashing democrats and talking about the good Trump has done…

This shame of accepting a political label is a mystery to me

You have incorrectly described Grace's conduct and position on this forum, then.

I think it's important we speak truthfully about other people on this forum instead of just making stuff up.

Is the Anthony guy real or is he a bot? One would think a human would know better than to make up things that are so easily disproven.

Wife: He seems like a human, and it seems like it’s not actually an unusual behavior for humans. That said, I can’t actually verify his claim one way or another, because we are not on the politics forum, so the search engine wouldn’t show any of Grace’s posts on that forum.

I do think that we need to remember that we will give an account for every idle word spoken, and somehow I think text counts as well, so all parties involved should try to allow that to guide their conduct in this debate.

[ken_sylvania]

You have incorrectly described Grace's conduct and position on this forum, then.

I think it's important we speak truthfully about other people on this forum instead of just making stuff up.

Is the Anthony guy real or is he a bot? One would think a human would know better than to make up things that are so easily disproven.

Wife: He seems like a human, and it seems like it’s not actually an unusual behavior for humans. That said, I can’t actually verify his claim one way or another, because we are not on the politics forum, so the search engine wouldn’t show any of Grace’s posts on that forum.

I do think that we need to remember that we will give an account for every idle word spoken, and somehow I think text counts as well, so all parties involved should try to allow that to guide their conduct in this debate.

True.

[Silentreader]

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I guess the Mennonet tells us different things depending who we are....

[ohio jones]

Far too often, including on this forum, there are demands that someone first denounce a certain political figure before their humanity or right to have an opinion is acknowledged at all. That doesn’t lead to helpful debate.

Oh, you mean like this?

As I asked earlier, did you speak out against the Obama administration doing this?

I haven't asked someone to denounce the Obama adminsitration.

There is a degree of difference between denouncing a person and denouncing their actions, of course. But as a way of shutting down or deflecting discussion, they are very similar. When someone calls into question the actions of a political figure and the predictable response is "but did you denounce the other party when they did something or other years ago?" it's just a descent into the morass of political squabbling. There are better ways of engaging the subject.

[JohnH]

There is a degree of difference between denouncing a person and denouncing their actions, of course. But as a way of shutting down or deflecting discussion, they are very similar. When someone calls into question the actions of a political figure and the predictable response is "but did you denounce the other party when they did something or other years ago?" it's just a descent into the morass of political squabbling. There are better ways of engaging the subject.

When it's about a particular action or policy, it seems quite appropriate to ask if their opposition is to that action or policy or merely opposition to the person doing it.

[ohio jones]

There is a degree of difference between denouncing a person and denouncing their actions, of course. But as a way of shutting down or deflecting discussion, they are very similar. When someone calls into question the actions of a political figure and the predictable response is "but did you denounce the other party when they did something or other years ago?" it's just a descent into the morass of political squabbling. There are better ways of engaging the subject.

When it's about a particular action or policy, it seems quite appropriate to ask if their opposition is to that action or policy or merely opposition to the person doing it.

There are better ways of asking that.

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I guess the Mennonet tells us different things depending who we are....

It depends on whether or not you're in the politics group. I saw what ken saw, but when I momentarily opted in to politics I saw what Silentreader saw.

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I guess the Mennonet tells us different things depending who we are....

It depends on whether or not you're in the politics group. I saw what ken saw, but when I momentarily opted in to politics I saw what Silentreader saw.

Can we trust what the folks in the Politics group are seeing? Or is it just politics?