Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 5:14 pm
If a Pentecostal preacher posted a picture depicting themselves like this, how do you think people would respond? I suspect people would say that he looked like a cult leader.
They do the thing depicted all the time. And no, they aren't "cult leaders", even if I do disagree with some of their doctrine and practice.
When my husband was in a coma from stroke & sepsis 21 years ago, the intensive care nurse Dean was not very positive about him coming out of it- so as was the way we believe, I was praying over him like pictured, laying hands on him and praying out loud. Dean was working on the patient on the other side of the curtain. While I was praying, Neil started coming out of his coma (I’m sure Dean could hear me praying) and I shouted over to Dean “Dean, he’s coming out of it!” So Dean came over & it was the beginning of Neil’s healing. As Pentecosts it was what we were taught to do from Scripture. It didn’t seem “weird” to do what Jesus taught.
Nothing weird at all about a believer praying for healing, or church leaders anointing the sick with oil. Nothing weird about a Pentecostal preacher depicted *as himself* praying for the sick. A Pentecostal preacher depicted *as Jesus* gets into weird territory, and an unbeliever depicted as Jesus has fully reached that destination.
John 9:31 suggests that such a prayer would not be heard anyway.
They do the thing depicted all the time. And no, they aren't "cult leaders", even if I do disagree with some of their doctrine and practice.
When my husband was in a coma from stroke & sepsis 21 years ago, the intensive care nurse Dean was not very positive about him coming out of it- so as was the way we believe, I was praying over him like pictured, laying hands on him and praying out loud. Dean was working on the patient on the other side of the curtain. While I was praying, Neil started coming out of his coma (I’m sure Dean could hear me praying) and I shouted over to Dean “Dean, he’s coming out of it!” So Dean came over & it was the beginning of Neil’s healing. As Pentecosts it was what we were taught to do from Scripture. It didn’t seem “weird” to do what Jesus taught.
Nothing weird at all about a believer praying for healing, or church leaders anointing the sick with oil. Nothing weird about a Pentecostal preacher depicted *as himself* praying for the sick. A Pentecostal preacher depicted *as Jesus* gets into weird territory, and an unbeliever depicted as Jesus has fully reached that destination.
John 9:31 suggests that such a prayer would not be heard anyway.
Assuming he actually was “depicted as Jesus”. I am not convinced some AI slop image generator can generate accurate depictions of Jesus.
When my husband was in a coma from stroke & sepsis 21 years ago, the intensive care nurse Dean was not very positive about him coming out of it- so as was the way we believe, I was praying over him like pictured, laying hands on him and praying out loud. Dean was working on the patient on the other side of the curtain. While I was praying, Neil started coming out of his coma (I’m sure Dean could hear me praying) and I shouted over to Dean “Dean, he’s coming out of it!” So Dean came over & it was the beginning of Neil’s healing. As Pentecosts it was what we were taught to do from Scripture. It didn’t seem “weird” to do what Jesus taught.
Nothing weird at all about a believer praying for healing, or church leaders anointing the sick with oil. Nothing weird about a Pentecostal preacher depicted *as himself* praying for the sick. A Pentecostal preacher depicted *as Jesus* gets into weird territory, and an unbeliever depicted as Jesus has fully reached that destination.
John 9:31 suggests that such a prayer would not be heard anyway.
Assuming he actually was “depicted as Jesus”. I am not convinced some AI slop image generator can generate accurate depictions of Jesus.
Who knows, I think it was symbolic you’d have to hear the artists explanation. We do “Represent” & put on Christ with His power, I don’t know if Trump realizes or maybe he just wanted to ruffle feathers - Trump removed it leaving TDS in its wake, when will he learn.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 6:24 pm
Assuming he actually was “depicted as Jesus”. I am not convinced some AI slop image generator can generate accurate depictions of Jesus.
Not that a real person could do any better. Or should.
I laughed at out loud at finding out trump totally missed the Christian symbolism and thought he was just a doctor of some sort.
I believe the proper way to think of Trump from a pentecoastal perspective is that hes a Cyrus type figure. His diehard supporters think of him in messianic terms, even if they arent pentecoastal.
Anthony wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:28 pm
I laughed at out loud at finding out trump totally missed the Christian symbolism and thought he was just a doctor of some sort.
It also suggests that Trump doesn’t know what a doctor looks like.
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"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless."
Anthony wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:28 pm
I laughed at out loud at finding out trump totally missed the Christian symbolism and thought he was just a doctor of some sort.
It also suggests that Trump doesn’t know what a doctor looks like.
Hey he had a white shirt on of some sort, cant blame him right?
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 3:01 pm
...I am a little surprised to find alleged Anabaptists getting all worked about claim...
I am surprised that there are 7 pages of discussion...all in day's work.
Good try on the Pentecostal thing!
Romans 13:14:
New King James Version
But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts.
Some translations say “Clother yourself with Christ” and so all depends if you look at the symbolic artwork the author was using.
Indeed “some” of his base believe he was put in place by the Lord for such a time as this- I actually heard that by one of the Republicans who was originally campaigning. If Trump gives glory to God line he does, he obviously doesn’t see himself as God.
Anyway, he humbled himself and took it down, so hopefully people can sleep tonight.
