Bunny Trails

[Falco Knotwise]

My assessment: it’s certainly not a false claim, I just find it lacking insofar as not stressing the majority of abuse cases in priesthood involve homosexuality.


The Church seems willing to accommodate homosexuals in the priesthood even at the risk of ruining the lives of children/youth all over the world, because, you know, that’s what Jesus would do.

If you are gay, a society exclusively composed of men is going to be more attractive. And you are giving up nothing by giving up women. That is simple reality and has nothing to do with liberalism.

That doesn’t matter. The rule of the Church has always been, and still is, anyone who identifies as gay or has strong inclinations towards that is not to be admitted to seminaries or religious orders. That’s the rule. It hasn’t changed. The Church simply continues to ignore it. They run the seminaries and are found among Cardinals, the most powerful prelates beneath the pope.

The velvet mafia within the Church is real.

P. S. I think it is in the loosening of the strictures against homosexuals being admitted to seminaries and religious orders that we can see the “liberalism” I’m talking about at work here.

Who is and has been advocating for the same thing everywhere in civil society as well? (Not arguing against that here.)

I suppose it’s just human (and therefore universal) to ignore Biblical principles and warnings, not especially liberal, but “liberalism” does turn this merely human ignorance into a principle of “freedom” and “progress.”

And since this obviously puts at risk the lives of children, youth and young adults across the world, why shouldn’t these “liberal” policies be singled out for censure?

Am I really that off just for recognizing these things as typically liberal? It’s doubtful that anyone here would call them conservative principles.

[temporal1]

Excellent talk setting the framework for understanding what is going on with Catholicism and Christianity in general.
Paul Vanderklay is a Protestant, but he talks to two Catholics about the debacle over the rainbow blessings,
so this is an interesting discussion.

^^nearly 3 hours! have you lost your marbles??! even i struggle with 3 hours!
still, i’ll do it. 20 min intervals or so.

[Falco Knotwise]

Excellent talk setting the framework for understanding what is going on with Catholicism and Christianity in general.
Paul Vanderklay is a Protestant, but he talks to two Catholics about the debacle over the rainbow blessings,
so this is an interesting discussion.

^^nearly 3 hours! have you lost your marbles??! even i struggle with 3 hours!
still, i’ll do it. 20 min intervals or so.

Only if you’re interested, temp. It won’t be on the Quiz. (Or maybe it will be! ) These are all some pretty intelligent people, so I found it interesting, that’s all.

I do especially like how they’re all able to get along and discuss things without resorting to old sectarian hatreds. Some people on this forum could learn a lesson or two.

But, I’m not twisting anyone’s arms here! If anyone here has better things to do then by all means, have at it!

[temporal1]

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Excellent talk setting the framework for understanding what is going on with Catholicism and Christianity in general.
Paul Vanderklay is a Protestant, but he talks to two Catholics about the debacle over the rainbow blessings,
so this is an interesting discussion.

^^nearly 3 hours! have you lost your marbles??! even i struggle with 3 hours!
still, i’ll do it. 20 min intervals or so.

Only if you’re interested, temp. It won’t be on the Quiz. (Or maybe it will be! ) These are all some pretty intelligent people, so I found it interesting, that’s all.

I do especially like how they’re all able to get along and discuss things without resorting to old sectarian hatreds. Some people on this forum could learn a lesson or two.

But, I’m not twisting anyone’s arms here! If anyone here has better things to do then by all means, have at it!

100%. That’s just my way of letting you know i’m working on it.
Probably 20 min at a bite.

Summary Notes
“It’s not what you say, it’s what people hear.

Or, It’s not what you write, it’s what people read. Well, both.

[Falco Knotwise]

The Vatican document Fiducia Supplicans has little to do with “pastoral sensitivity,” “mercy,” or “the God of Surprises.” This whole thing is very political.

Pope Francis is apparently trying to eliminate any Christian opposition to the UN-backed EU ACP Treaty. (PF is fully on board with UN Agenda 2030.) If it passes in the next few weeks, it will force 79 developing countries to adopt universal reproductive rights, abortion on demand, mandatory LGBTQ rights and “comprehensive sex education” for kids. Yes, this will force them all to legalize abortion, contraception, homosexuality and to implement transgender policies, etc.

At this moment, the major opposition to this thing passing is coming from Catholic bishops (along with all kinds of Pro Life organizations) in these developing countries. Many of the countries were about to sign the EU ACP Treaty not realizing it included all sorts of cultural related demands. Now they are claiming they haven’t had enough time to consider it and the EU is threatening legal sanctions against any country that doesn’t sign it by January 1st, 2024.

So, in other words, if the African countries want to trade (if they want economic security and prosperity) or even if they want clean water, they’re gonna have to comply with these EU demands.

At the same time, African Catholic Bishops Conferences are standing up en masse in opposition to the Vatican’s latest Fiducia Supplicans document. This means a whole continent of bishops is resisting Pope Francis “to the face” (Gal. 2:11) over it and they’ve got the Vatican on the ropes.

https://apnews.com/article/vatican-pope ... 9fb4b4657e
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/202 ... tacularly/

This is a pretty big story, one would think, yet the MSM seems to have little interest in it. It’s gonna be interesting to see how this all pans out.

[temporal1]

The Vatican document Fiducia Supplicans has little to do with “pastoral sensitivity,” “mercy,” or “the God of Surprises.”
This whole thing is very political.

Pope Francis is apparently trying to eliminate any Christian opposition to the UN backed EU ACP Treaty. (PF is fully on board with UN Agenda 2030.) If it passes in the next few weeks, it will force 79 developing countries to adopt universal reproductive rights, abortion on demand, mandatory LGBTQ rights and “comprehensive sex education” for kids.

Yes, this will force them all to legalize abortion, contraception, homosexuality and to implement transgender policies, etc.

At this moment, the major opposition to this thing passing is coming from Catholic bishops (along with all kinds of Pro Life organizations) in these developing countries. Many of the countries were about to sign the EU ACP Treaty not realizing it included all sorts of cultural related demands. Now they are claiming they haven’t had enough time to consider it and the EU is threatening legal sanctions against any country that doesn’t sign it by January 1st, 2024.

So, in other words, if the African countries want to trade (if they want economic security and prosperity) or even if they want clean water, they’re gonna have to comply with these EU demands.

At the same time, African Catholic Bishops Conferences are standing up en masse in opposition to the Vatican’s latest Fiducia Supplicans document. This means a whole continent of bishops is resisting Pope Francis “to the face” (Gal. 2:11) over it and they’ve got the Vatican on the ropes.

So, in other words, if the African countries want to trade (if they want economic security and prosperity) or even if they want clean water, they’re gonna have to comply with these EU demands.

This is a pretty big story, one would think, yet the MSM seems to have little interest in it.
It’s gonna be interesting to see how this all pans out.

https://apnews.com/article/vatican-pope ... 9fb4b4657e

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/202 ... tacularly/

Cardinal Burke / Cardinal Who Lost Free Vatican Home Has 4-Word Message on Meeting With Pope
https://www.newsweek.com/cardinal-lost- ... pe-1856551

.. Raymond Burke, a conservative American cardinal and one of Pope Francis' staunchest critics, had a pithy response when asked how his meeting on Friday with the pontiff went: ”Well, I'm still alive."

Cardinal Burke website
https://www.cardinalburke.com/

2021 / Cardinal Sarah / Pope Francis Accepts Resignation Of Conservative African Cardinal
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/20/96977406 ... n-cardinal
^^i don’t believe C Sarah’s “resignation” was voluntary. [my opinion]

African Cardinals
https://secam.org/african-cardinals/

[Falco Knotwise]

[temporal1]

Bullying is the operative word.

The political U.S. does it in many ways, threats of loss of foreign aid is one.
2011 / Example:
https://www.voanews.com/a/obama-elevate ... 74955.html

[Falco Knotwise]

Bullying is the operative word.

The political U.S. does it in many ways, threats of loss of foreign aid is one.
2011 / Example:
https://www.voanews.com/a/obama-elevate ... 74955.html

Near the end of the video she explains if this thing passes it also gives EU controlling interest in all future UN votes since part of the agreement says all 79 countries have to vote with the EU in the UN!

Yet, crickets from the MSM!

[temporal1]

Bullying is the operative word.

The political U.S. does it in many ways, threats of loss of foreign aid is one.
2011 / Example:
https://www.voanews.com/a/obama-elevate ... 74955.html

Near the end of the video she explains if this thing passes it also gives EU controlling interest in all future UN votes since part of the agreement says all 79 countries have to vote with the EU in the UN!

Yet, crickets from the MSM!

i’m about half-thru, can’t finish immediately.
i think your posts today are among the most significant on this forum. It’s “need to know” that msm is deliberately ignoring.

As former forum member, Mr Jim, pointed out one day, “If the Catholic Church falls,” .. all will be damaged.
The RCC is THE BIG TARGET. And, there is evil within, as is witnessed in all human constructs.

i really never thought about it that way, until i read it from Mr Jim.

i’ve learned so much on MD/MN.