cooper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:30 pm
Is not accepting outsiders actually the official line? I mean, even most Amish accept outsiders in principle. I thought Elmendorf was an "enlightened" Hutterite colony.
They had some horrible experiences with non-Hutterites at Elmendorf. So I don't blame them for shutting the door.
Dean could have tried joining the main Hutterites.
Instead he tried joining a Hutter/ Charity colony that's in flux.
They also said they barely have enough housing for their own people, which is one of the reasons they don’t take outsiders.
Yeah, I have heard that also but I don't understand it. Like just build a new apartment building.
Spokane has some non-Hutterite last names as does Crystal Spring and they have been members there for a long time.
They had some horrible experiences with non-Hutterites at Elmendorf. So I don't blame them for shutting the door.
Dean could have tried joining the main Hutterites.
Instead he tried joining a Hutter/ Charity colony that's in flux.
They also said they barely have enough housing for their own people, which is one of the reasons they don’t take outsiders.
Yeah, I have heard that also but I don't understand it. Like just build a new apartment building.
Spokane has some non-Hutterite last names as does Crystal Spring and they have been members there for a long time.
Hmm, I must have spoken to the wrong minister. He told me there had been one outsider in the last 20 odd years, and he said they don’t take outsiders. The thing with the housing had to do with zoning laws… that’s what he told me. He basically said he spoke for all the colonies in the northwest in terms of accepting outsiders.
Soloist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:30 pm
They also said they barely have enough housing for their own people, which is one of the reasons they don’t take outsiders.
Yeah, I have heard that also but I don't understand it. Like just build a new apartment building.
Spokane has some non-Hutterite last names as does Crystal Spring and they have been members there for a long time.
Hmm, I must have spoken to the wrong minister. He told me there had been one outsider in the last 20 odd years, and he said they don’t take outsiders. The thing with the housing had to do with zoning laws… that’s what he told me. He basically said he spoke for all the colonies in the northwest in terms of accepting outsiders.
Josh wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:41 pm
The latter. He was the last one to get in who stayed. Grand River never accepted outsiders, and I understand Elmendorf doesn’t anymore either. The only one left that does is Ft Pitt (and whatever the Paraguay group is called).
Is not accepting outsiders actually the official line? I mean, even most Amish accept outsiders in principle. I thought Elmendorf was an "enlightened" Hutterite colony.
It is a temporary thing with a goal to eventually resolve it, but also acknowledging to any interested families that there are too many issues to successfully take in and integrate an outside family to the point of becoming full members.
AndersonD wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:46 pmThey had some horrible experiences with non-Hutterites at Elmendorf. So I don't blame them for shutting the door.
I honestly don’t blame them either.
Dean could have tried joining the main Hutterites.
Instead he tried joining a Hutter/ Charity colony that's in flux.
Well, other Hutterites aren’t really interested in accepting outsiders either. I agree that any place with Charity influences should be avoided - but one cannot blame a seeker family like the Taylors for not knowing this. (They aren’t in a Charity type of situation anymore, for what it’s worth.)
All transitional Anabaptist church members and leaders ought to be ashamed of their conduct and how it leads to these kind of situations.
Do Hutterites practice a lifetime commitment to the church? I thought they did. My only in-depth experience is with the Bruderhof, who have enough stark dissimilarities that they broke off from the Hutterite church; but I assumed the lifetime membership that the Bhof practices is from the Hutterites. Most communal situations really struggle without a lifetime membership commitment. I don't know how Dean was able to so easily jump in and then out of a Hutterite colony unless they don't have lifetime commitment similar to the Amish.
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The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know very well that the minute we understand we are obliged to act accordingly.
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Praxis+Theodicy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:24 am
Do Hutterites practice a lifetime commitment to the church? I thought they did. My only in-depth experience is with the Bruderhof, who have enough stark dissimilarities that they broke off from the Hutterite church; but I assumed the lifetime membership that the Bhof practices is from the Hutterites. Most communal situations really struggle without a lifetime membership commitment. I don't know how Dean was able to so easily jump in and then out of a Hutterite colony unless they don't have lifetime commitment similar to the Amish.
The two he was with do not have the same financial commitment that Hutterites have.
Edit: Dean had described it to me as communal charity living. This was after he had already left.
Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:36 am
The two he was with do not have the same financial commitment that Hutterites have.
Edit: Dean had described it to me as communal charity living. This was after he had already left.
Do they practice a common purse, or are they just congregations of believers who are ethnic Hutterites? Are there other distinctives of Hutterits besides their community of goods that makes them a "Hutterite" church? If they do practice a common purse/community of goods, is there a system of buying in and selling out?
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The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know very well that the minute we understand we are obliged to act accordingly.
-Søren Kierkegaard
Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:36 am
The two he was with do not have the same financial commitment that Hutterites have.
Edit: Dean had described it to me as communal charity living. This was after he had already left.
Do they practice a common purse, or are they just congregations of believers who are ethnic Hutterites? Are there other distinctives of Hutterits besides their community of goods that makes them a "Hutterite" church? If they do practice a common purse/community of goods, is there a system of buying in and selling out?
