Sattler College Turmoil

[Soloist]

As far as I can learn, no Sattler student so far has been required to submit his or her church choice for Finny's approval, and I am fairly sure that were anyone to attempt a policy of blacklisting churches Finny doesn't like, the board members personally known to me would immediately resign.

I am not saying you are wrong, but he did have the board resign already. And the why is the primary disagreement.

[Soloist]

If you want that evidence go talk to Dean Taylor.

[jahertz]

If you want that evidence go talk to Dean Taylor.

To be clear, are you claiming Dean Taylor possesses evidence showing 1. That Finny Kuruvilla opposes the existence of any conservative Mennonite church in Boston on principle and 2. That Finny has the power to prevent Mennonites from establishing such a church independently of his college?

[Soloist]

If you want that evidence go talk to Dean Taylor.

To be clear, are you claiming Dean Taylor possesses evidence showing 1. That Finny Kuruvilla opposes the existence of any conservative Mennonite church in Boston on principle and 2. That Finny has the power to prevent Mennonites from establishing such a church independently of his college?

No I am claiming that there was a group willing to plant a church there if Finny didn’t stand against it.
I don’t know the specifics and Dean might not be willing to give you proof.

[Nomad]

Its an interesting concept...Christians trying to convert/ indoctrinate other Christians. I once heard from a missionary in Vietnam who asked a Vietnamese Christian what they would do if churches swapped believers. His reply was "Unheard of, we don't steal each others sheep..."

I actually, wouldn't mind if Anabaptist toned down some of the rhetoric against Evangelicals and others. Probably, one area where I would respect the Sattler cause is that they seem more open to working with Christians from different backgrounds.

It’s not actually stealing believers if the church isn’t actually a church.
All I’ve seen done is calling people to follow what’s the Scriptures teach.
I was one of these sheep. I guess I stole myself. I for one speak of it as the time I actually started believing what Jesus said.

I dont have a problem with people switching churches. I have a problem with churches targeting other churches with the intention of changing their minds to join their church or trying to shake up other churches they deem wrong. I think there are things we can learn from each other while also respectfully standing our ground where needed...without resorting to pointing fingers at each others flaws.

[Nomad]

The original vision of Sattler (as it was told to me) was to recruit evangelical students and indoctrinate them into why nonresistance and other “kingdom Christianity” concepts are a good idea. Needless to say that didn’t happen.

Its an interesting concept...Christians trying to convert/ indoctrinate other Christians. I once heard from a missionary in Vietnam who asked a Vietnamese Christian what they would do if churches swapped believers. His reply was "Unheard of, we don't steal each others sheep..."

That would be just about every single evangelical and protestant mission in Latin America then, including the Anabaptist ones. Since virtually all of them are recruiting Catholics.

I don’t think they are ALL intentionally recruiting Catholics. But, yes, I suppose its possible some are...I don't know how all the protestants mission statements of faith read. But I'm not going to place all of them in the same box. I would say we don't have to borrow the tactics of those specific evangelicals and protestants you are referring to then.

[jahertz]

Its an interesting concept...Christians trying to convert/ indoctrinate other Christians. I once heard from a missionary in Vietnam who asked a Vietnamese Christian what they would do if churches swapped believers. His reply was "Unheard of, we don't steal each others sheep..."

I actually, wouldn't mind if Anabaptist toned down some of the rhetoric against Evangelicals and others. Probably, one area where I would respect the Sattler cause is that they seem more open to working with Christians from different backgrounds.

It’s not actually stealing believers if the church isn’t actually a church.
All I’ve seen done is calling people to follow what’s the Scriptures teach.
I was one of these sheep. I guess I stole myself. I for one speak of it as the time I actually started believing what Jesus said.

I dont have a problem with people switching churches. I have a problem with churches targeting other churches with the intention of changing their minds to join their church or trying to shake up other churches they deem wrong. I think there are things we can learn from each other while also respectfully standing our ground where needed...without resorting to pointing fingers at each others flaws.

This is all very interesting, and I mostly agree, but it's way off-topic from the problems of Sattler, which to my knowledge has never positioned or understood itself as a recruitment program to woo Christian students into a particular church group.

[Soloist]

This is all very interesting, and I mostly agree, but it's way off-topic from the problems of Sattler, which to my knowledge has never positioned or understood itself as a recruitment program to woo Christian students into a particular church group.

It’s actually very on point, but I’m not at liberty to explain.
I just re-looked at my messages, apparently it’s not entirely accurate… I can share it. I don’t think the permission was to post it on public forums though.
There is a Google Drive that contains great deal of information on this… most of it isn’t proof so to speak, there is recordings of a meeting between Finny, David and other board members.
I believe Dean’s resignation letter is in there which also somewhat explains.
Feel free to ask someone for it I’m not going to pass it on.

[jahertz]

This is all very interesting, and I mostly agree, but it's way off-topic from the problems of Sattler, which to my knowledge has never positioned or understood itself as a recruitment program to woo Christian students into a particular church group.

It’s actually very on point, but I’m not at liberty to explain.

Mysterious!

[Soloist]

This is all very interesting, and I mostly agree, but it's way off-topic from the problems of Sattler, which to my knowledge has never positioned or understood itself as a recruitment program to woo Christian students into a particular church group.

It’s actually very on point, but I’m not at liberty to explain.

Mysterious!

Sorry I edited it, maybe I should’ve just made a new post.