Domestic violence within our plain culture?

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Ken
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Re: Domestic violence within our plain culture?

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KirkDaniel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:43 pm
Chris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:59 pm
steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:09 am

My original intent was the afore mentioned "wife beating" but would be open to discuss the other types referenced in the link provided.
I'd say more often than not the woman is beating the man. It really happens.
Of course it happens. But far too often it is male on female violence.
According to national statistics, 1 in 4 women and 1 in 9 men experience domestic violence of some sort. https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS

I have no idea how those national statistics translate to the Menno world in terms of either the prevalence or the sex-ratio.
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steve-in-kville

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Chris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:59 pm
steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:09 am
KirkDaniel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:28 pm Yes, I have heard of it happening in plain communities. But if by domestic violence you only mean wife beating, then I think your definition is too narrow. Read the definition on the link below and then re-ask your question. There should be hundreds of responses.

https://www.justice.gov/ovw/domestic-violence
My original intent was the afore mentioned "wife beating" but would be open to discuss the other types referenced in the link provided.
I'd say more often than not the woman is beating the man. It really happens.
Yeah, maybe beating him out of bed on a Sunday morning 8-)
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Neto

Re: Domestic violence within our plain culture?

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Ken wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:37 pm
KirkDaniel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:43 pm
Chris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:59 pm

I'd say more often than not the woman is beating the man. It really happens.
Of course it happens. But far too often it is male on female violence.
According to national statistics, 1 in 4 women and 1 in 9 men experience domestic violence of some sort. https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS

I have no idea how those national statistics translate to the Menno world in terms of either the prevalence or the sex-ratio.
Considering the tendency of men to have macho concepts, I would guess that a higher percentage of women report abuse than do men, but there's no way to know, is there? Any abuse is too much.
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steve-in-kville

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Neto wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:21 am
Considering the tendency of men to have macho concepts, I would guess that a higher percentage of women report abuse than do men, but there's no way to know, is there? Any abuse is too much.
In my four plus decades of experience, men would tend to be twice (if not more?) as physically abusive as women. But... women would be twice as emotionally abusive as men.
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Neto

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steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:27 am
Neto wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:21 am
Considering the tendency of men to have macho concepts, I would guess that a higher percentage of women report abuse than do men, but there's no way to know, is there? Any abuse is too much.
In my four plus decades of experience, men would tend to be twice (if not more?) as physically abusive as women. But... women would be twice as emotionally abusive as men.
Which would you say happens first, in any particular relationship? (Assuming that both probably occur in the troubled relationship. Is that a safe assumption?)
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Soloist

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men get laughed at if they admit to being abused.
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steve-in-kville

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Neto wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:57 am
steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:27 am
Neto wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:21 am
Considering the tendency of men to have macho concepts, I would guess that a higher percentage of women report abuse than do men, but there's no way to know, is there? Any abuse is too much.
In my four plus decades of experience, men would tend to be twice (if not more?) as physically abusive as women. But... women would be twice as emotionally abusive as men.
Which would you say happens first, in any particular relationship? (Assuming that both probably occur in the troubled relationship. Is that a safe assumption?)
When my wife and I were dating, the minister that would eventually marry us often used the praise "love is blind." The potential of physical abuse is hard to see, perhaps the potential for emotional abuse, not so much.

The real test is when life's challenges come along and adds stress to the marriage... that is when either a couple learns to grow together or else the "true colors" rise to the surface. Just my experience.
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Re: Domestic violence within our plain culture?

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Neto wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:57 am
steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:27 am
Neto wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:21 am
Considering the tendency of men to have macho concepts, I would guess that a higher percentage of women report abuse than do men, but there's no way to know, is there? Any abuse is too much.
In my four plus decades of experience, men would tend to be twice (if not more?) as physically abusive as women. But... women would be twice as emotionally abusive as men.
Which would you say happens first, in any particular relationship? (Assuming that both probably occur in the troubled relationship. Is that a safe assumption?)
I would say that the arguments start first in the relationship.

But how men and women fight tends to be different.
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steve-in-kville

Re: Domestic violence within our plain culture?

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Ken wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:42 am
I would say that the arguments start first in the relationship.

But how men and women fight tends to be different.
Depends on who wears the pants in the family :D
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