Not unless there was some good 'ol fashioned hoodwinking going on
Life sentence for Stanley Gerald Champ
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steve-in-kville
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Josh
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Or if the police can't find enough evidence to build a case or get a grand jury to indict, then there is no case and no conviction. Happens all the time.steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:28 amNot unless there was some good 'ol fashioned hoodwinking going on![]()
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Biblical Anabaptist
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Champ claims he is innocent. He alleges a disgruntled family that left Grays Prairie brought trumped-up charges against him.
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There was more than one victim though, correct? And they also had a recording of him admitting to some stuff?Biblical Anabaptist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:23 pm Champ claims he is innocent. He alleges a disgruntled family that left Grays Prairie brought trumped-up charges against him.
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Josh
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You seem to be the expert on these things. Tell us.Sliceitup wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:18 pmThere was more than one victim though, correct? And they also had a recording of him admitting to some stuff?Biblical Anabaptist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:23 pm Champ claims he is innocent. He alleges a disgruntled family that left Grays Prairie brought trumped-up charges against him.
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The senior pastor, Harry Erb, is his uncle (his mother's brother).ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:01 amHe was not ordained. He's not closely related to any of the ordained leaders at Grays Prairie. His father is deacon at a church in PA that's part of the same district.
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Biblical Anabaptist
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I don't claim to be the expert. I emailed the article https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local ... 5fec1db3d3 to my son who sells for the same company as an Eastern minister. He called him and asked him about it and that is what he was told.Josh wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:25 pmYou seem to be the expert on these things. Tell us.Sliceitup wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:18 pmThere was more than one victim though, correct? And they also had a recording of him admitting to some stuff?Biblical Anabaptist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:23 pm Champ claims he is innocent. He alleges a disgruntled family that left Grays Prairie brought trumped-up charges against him.
It is unfortunate that there have been (and possibly still are) cases where there have been sexual improprieties, assaults, and abuses. Some of these have been covered up. It is also unfortunate that the "me too" thinking is gaining traction and some innocent folks are being accused of things. IMO, any one of us could be accused (and found "guilty") if some disgruntled person would decide to bring charges. We would like to trust the court system, but I believe all of us have heard of innocent people spending years in prison based on false accusations.
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ken_sylvania
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I'm sorry, I hadn't realized that.TruthSeeker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:12 pmThe senior pastor, Harry Erb, is his uncle (his mother's brother).ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:01 amHe was not ordained. He's not closely related to any of the ordained leaders at Grays Prairie. His father is deacon at a church in PA that's part of the same district.
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Understandable. I think the focus originally WAS on Champ geneology.ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 5:21 pmI'm sorry, I hadn't realized that.TruthSeeker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:12 pmThe senior pastor, Harry Erb, is his uncle (his mother's brother).ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:01 am
He was not ordained. He's not closely related to any of the ordained leaders at Grays Prairie. His father is deacon at a church in PA that's part of the same district.
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