Entire Michigan city government is Muslim

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
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ken_s:
If Indonesia is your idea of a country demonstrating a commitment to freedom of religion then no, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

it’s well for taxpayers and others to be made well aware of what children, teens, are faced with everyday.
generally without means of escape, they generally do+say what is required to stroke egos to get passing grades.
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.. In 2007, then-Rep.-elect Keith Ellison used former President Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Koran for his swearing-in ceremony, drawing complaints from conservative Christians who claimed only a Bible could be used for the oath of office.
But back in 1825, former President John Quincy Adams swore his oath on a law book.
In 2013, U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a Hindu, swore on a copy of the Bhagavad Gita.

The photos showing Ellison, Tlaib and Omar with their hands on Qurans are from ceremonial events, re-enacting their swearing-in.

"That’s when you’ll see a hand on a religious text," Fred Beuttler, then the deputy historian of the House, told ABC in 2006.
"But that’s an informal ceremony for the members or the members’ own purposes.
It’s not the official swearing-in ceremony of the House, when no religious text is used." ..
“Where your treasure is” ..

Matthew 6:21
20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

22The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light.…

It’s not always a matter of what’s legal, in human law. Human law is not flawless.
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Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:31 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:30 am
gcdonner wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:50 pm
I guess you aren't familiar with Minnesota politics are you? Illyan Ohmar, etc?
What has she done that has got you in a panic?
Marrying her brother?
You mean the unsourced rumor to that effect that was spread on conservative web sites that has since been debunked? Apparently she has bounced between two different men in her life over the past decade, neither of which is her brother. Which makes her a pretty run-of-the-mill politician I suppose. But not particularly scary.
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Josh

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Ken wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:13 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:31 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:30 am

What has she done that has got you in a panic?
Marrying her brother?
You mean the unsourced rumor to that effect that was spread on conservative web sites that has since been debunked? Apparently she has bounced between two different men in her life over the past decade, neither of which is her brother. Which makes her a pretty run-of-the-mill politician I suppose. But not particularly scary.
So was she married or not when she entered the country?
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Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:18 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:13 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:31 pm

Marrying her brother?
You mean the unsourced rumor to that effect that was spread on conservative web sites that has since been debunked? Apparently she has bounced between two different men in her life over the past decade, neither of which is her brother. Which makes her a pretty run-of-the-mill politician I suppose. But not particularly scary.
So was she married or not when she entered the country?
Her marriage history is well documented. Look it up if you are curious. The anonymous posters who spread rumors on conservative web sites that she married her brother presented zero evidence to support their claims.
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temporal1

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kstp.com / minneapolis / undated:
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i have no idea what this means. in her religion or mine. (marriage/monogamy are negotiable/optional?)
i have no idea whether she was married to her brother (under any definition) at any time in her life.
she names 2 men, children, no mention of her brother. (very politician-y.)

we can trust she wrote this with advice of lib legal counsel.

it’s known, “searches” are not complete, lots of lib tampering with what info is available.
finding “zero evidence” in an internet search = zero.
this seriously hampers credibility.
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Josh

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Ken wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:29 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:18 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:13 pm

You mean the unsourced rumor to that effect that was spread on conservative web sites that has since been debunked? Apparently she has bounced between two different men in her life over the past decade, neither of which is her brother. Which makes her a pretty run-of-the-mill politician I suppose. But not particularly scary.
So was she married or not when she entered the country?
Her marriage history is well documented. Look it up if you are curious. The anonymous posters who spread rumors on conservative web sites that she married her brother presented zero evidence to support their claims.
Sure, Ken.
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Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:38 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:29 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:18 pm

So was she married or not when she entered the country?
Her marriage history is well documented. Look it up if you are curious. The anonymous posters who spread rumors on conservative web sites that she married her brother presented zero evidence to support their claims.
Sure, Ken.
And neither did you.
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:arrow: finding “zero evidence” in an internet search = zero.

at best: INCONCLUSIVE.

it’s depressing to think anyone, any age/education, would put so much faith in internet search engines.
sure, it’s tempting. we’re lazy, it’s tempting. but on some level, reality needs to be recognized. google is not the Word of God.
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:04 pm :arrow: finding “zero evidence” in an internet search = zero.

at best: INCONCLUSIVE.

it’s depressing to think anyone, any age/education, would put so much faith in internet search engines.
sure, it’s tempting. we’re lazy, it’s tempting. but on some level, reality needs to be recognized. google is not the Word of God.
If I, without any evidence, go on an internet forum anonymously and accuse Josh of being tax-evader or child abuser or any other crime. Who's job is it to present evidence? It is Josh's job to go around and waste time batting down every random accusation someone makes anonymously? Or is it my job to back up my accusations with some shred of evidence if I want them to be taken seriously?
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