Coronavirus Outbreak

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
ken_sylvania

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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NY Times wrote:Middlebury College has reached a pandemic high of 50 active coronavirus cases on campus, even as 99 percent of student body is fully vaccinated.
Middlebury College, in Vermont, announced on Thursday night that it would move to remote instruction for the remainder of the semester as an outbreak grows. The college will hold final exams remotely.
Administrators announced 34 new cases, bringing the total number of active cases reported to 50, the most on campus since the start of the pandemic.
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AnthonyMartin
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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nett wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:19 pm
AnthonyMartin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:03 pm
nett wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:55 pm If you publicly question vaccine efficacy, you get canceled. most people can't afford to have that happen, because they are completely dependent on the system. Yeah, most people will lie to keep their jobs and status.

I posted a story about a people who told the truth, and look at what happened.
What story? I’m just catching up and missed about 300 pages of my thread :-)
https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/whistl ... ignore-3e2
Ahhh, I wouldn’t have much time for Del Bigtree and his money either. Thanks!
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Ken
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:22 pm
NY Times wrote:Middlebury College has reached a pandemic high of 50 active coronavirus cases on campus, even as 99 percent of student body is fully vaccinated.
Middlebury College, in Vermont, announced on Thursday night that it would move to remote instruction for the remainder of the semester as an outbreak grows. The college will hold final exams remotely.
Administrators announced 34 new cases, bringing the total number of active cases reported to 50, the most on campus since the start of the pandemic.
Sounds like they are completely over-reacting. Are any of those cases actually sick, or just positive tests. They don't say. But I guess there is only about one week left in the semester anyway. Most schools are just doing finals next week and ending the semester by Friday Dec. 17. My daughter's finals are all remote except one so she is coming home tomorrow even though her semester officially ends next Friday. Her classes are all in-person but all the professors are apparently just giving online finals rather than making them sit for them in person. So she'll do them at home instead of staying an extra week in the dorms.
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Soloist

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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Ken wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:47 pm
ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:22 pm
NY Times wrote:Middlebury College has reached a pandemic high of 50 active coronavirus cases on campus, even as 99 percent of student body is fully vaccinated.
Middlebury College, in Vermont, announced on Thursday night that it would move to remote instruction for the remainder of the semester as an outbreak grows. The college will hold final exams remotely.
Administrators announced 34 new cases, bringing the total number of active cases reported to 50, the most on campus since the start of the pandemic.
Sounds like they are completely over-reacting. Are any of those cases actually sick, or just positive tests. They don't say. But I guess there is only about one week left in the semester anyway. Most schools are just doing finals next week and ending the semester by Friday Dec. 17. My daughter's finals are all remote except one so she is coming home tomorrow even though her semester officially ends next Friday. Her classes are all in-person but all the professors are apparently just giving online finals rather than making them sit for them in person. So she'll do them at home instead of staying an extra week in the dorms.

This sounds unusally familar to a prior opinion that was unpopular...
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nett
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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AnthonyMartin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:23 pm
nett wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:19 pm
AnthonyMartin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:03 pm
What story? I’m just catching up and missed about 300 pages of my thread :-)
https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/whistl ... ignore-3e2
Ahhh, I wouldn’t have much time for Del Bigtree and his money either. Thanks!
No mainstream outlets would cover this story for obvious reasons. Are you saying the woman is lying, because Del Bigtree is the only person would cover her story?
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AnthonyMartin
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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nett wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:58 pm
AnthonyMartin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:23 pm
Ahhh, I wouldn’t have much time for Del Bigtree and his money either. Thanks!
No mainstream outlets would cover this story for obvious reasons. Are you saying the woman is lying, because Del Bigtree is the only person would cover her story?
No, I’m not saying that :)
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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AnthonyMartin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:04 pm
nett wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:58 pm
AnthonyMartin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:23 pm
Ahhh, I wouldn’t have much time for Del Bigtree and his money either. Thanks!
No mainstream outlets would cover this story for obvious reasons. Are you saying the woman is lying, because Del Bigtree is the only person would cover her story?
No, I’m not saying that :)
What are you saying then?
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AnthonyMartin
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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nett wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:04 pm
AnthonyMartin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:04 pm
nett wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:58 pm

No mainstream outlets would cover this story for obvious reasons. Are you saying the woman is lying, because Del Bigtree is the only person would cover her story?
No, I’m not saying that :)
What are you saying then?
That I appreciated you sharing the story again for my benefit and that I don’t trust the source to be more than one anecdote from a biased platform. Thanks! You won’t find me to have the energy to debate beyond that. Thanks again
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Ken
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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nett wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:58 pm
AnthonyMartin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:23 pm
Ahhh, I wouldn’t have much time for Del Bigtree and his money either. Thanks!
No mainstream outlets would cover this story for obvious reasons. Are you saying the woman is lying, because Del Bigtree is the only person would cover her story?
Probably because it is not really a story.

We have one physicians assistant who's data reporting responsibilities were limited only her own patients. Who accused others in her hospital in New York of failing to adequately report incidents of vaccine side effect cases to VAERS. Basically she was alleging non-compliance on the part of other doctors and physician assistants in the hospital who were not her responsibility and for whom she had no supervisory authority. The hospital told her to do her own job and stop meddling in the job responsibilities of other hospital staff over whom she had no authority, and to stop messing in the medical records of patients that were not under her care. From the letter it appears she was reporting any medical condition that patients developed at all at any point after their vaccination regardless of whether there was any conceivable linkage to the vaccination itself. Basically a long list of common medical ailments which older people frequently get, which is actually not the purpose of VAERS so they told her to stop.

If you want a real example of Covid data being censored by the government, here is one: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 00321.html

And here is another one: https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronav ... 66117.html
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Bootstrap

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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Let's keep it simple. What are the rates of Covid-19 infection in the country as a whole for vaccinated people? For unvaccinated people? This page answers that question:

Rates of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 ... ion status
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I'd rather face the odds of the vaccinated people on the green line, not the odds of the unvaccinated people on the blue line. For all adults aged 18 years and older, the cumulative COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate was about 8 times higher in unvaccinated persons. In my age group, it was about 11 times higher.
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