Ivermectin

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To add to the plethora of perspectives on Ivermectin, the following article is featured in today’s local online news:
https://lancasteronline.com/news/healt ... iCXh6gI%3D
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Josh

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TruthSeeker wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:02 am To add to the plethora of perspectives on Ivermectin, the following article is featured in today’s local online news:
https://lancasteronline.com/news/healt ... iCXh6gI%3D
The lying press doesn’t want people taking ivermectin, despite it being the accepted treatment in one of the largest provinces in India and in Japan.

That article is completely untruthful: it claims the dose needed would be toxic. Yet that’s untrue. The dose recommended by FLCCC is not toxic. A friend of mine took they exact dose and it cured her covid within a day - and she has had no negative side effects from it.
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Josh wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:44 am
TruthSeeker wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:02 am To add to the plethora of perspectives on Ivermectin, the following article is featured in today’s local online news:
https://lancasteronline.com/news/healt ... iCXh6gI%3D
The lying press doesn’t want people taking ivermectin, despite it being the accepted treatment in one of the largest provinces in India and in Japan.

That article is completely untruthful: it claims the dose needed would be toxic. Yet that’s untrue. The dose recommended by FLCCC is not toxic. A friend of mine took they exact dose and it cured her covid within a day - and she has had no negative side effects from it.

"Being wrong is liberating.” ~ Pollyanna Gladwell ;)
(simply being lighthearted; not speaking on behalf of any information sources)
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temporal1

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i just noticed your link, titled:

“Grotesque conflicts of interest on NIH ivermectin non-recommendation”
.. However, the group responsible for the ivermectin non-recommendation has been discovered through a FOIA request to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. The FOIA response shows that the working group has nine members. Three members of the working group, Adaora Adimora, Roger Bedimo, and David V. Glidden, have disclosed a financial relationship with Merck.

Merck has campaigned against the use of ivermectin in COVID-19.
A fourth member, Susanna Naggie, had an extraordinary potential conflict of interest. She received a $155 million grant for the study of ivermectin following the non-recommendation. Funding for the study would have been difficult to justify if the drug was recommended for use in COVID-19. It is not known, however, if the panelist was aware of that opportunity or was planning to apply for that grant at the time of the deliberations on ivermectin.

The deception and secrecy surrounding the NIH ivermectin non-recommendation should have raised serious doubts about its integrity. The grotesque conflicts of interest of Panel members should make it clear that the NIH, as the FDA with its slandering of ivermectin as a “horse dewormer,” should not be taken seriously. :-|
The comments on the report are interesting, too. some with additional links.
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Valerie

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I bought ivermectin yesterday, but of course it's the kind for horses. The cashier at the store told me she is selling a lot of it for covid people.

I'm really nervous about giving it to my husband! I am giving him lots of supplements. He is on two transplant medications so I looked up the warnings of interactions for his transplant medications. Interestingly enough, vaccines are on the list of interactions with his transplant medications! Including the covid-19 vaccine!
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Valerie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:08 pm I bought ivermectin yesterday, but of course it's the kind for horses. The cashier at the store told me she is selling a lot of it for covid people.

I'm really nervous about giving it to my husband! I am giving him lots of supplements. He is on two transplant medications so I looked up the warnings of interactions for his transplant medications. Interestingly enough, vaccines are on the list of interactions with his transplant medications! Including the covid-19 vaccine!
Is there a reason you don't want to get a prescription from a doctor? We have no problems getting it legitimately around here.
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Valerie

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nett wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:05 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:08 pm I bought ivermectin yesterday, but of course it's the kind for horses. The cashier at the store told me she is selling a lot of it for covid people.

I'm really nervous about giving it to my husband! I am giving him lots of supplements. He is on two transplant medications so I looked up the warnings of interactions for his transplant medications. Interestingly enough, vaccines are on the list of interactions with his transplant medications! Including the covid-19 vaccine!
Is there a reason you don't want to get a prescription from a doctor? We have no problems getting it legitimately around here.
I seriously doubt his primary care physician would prescribe it, I bought the horsey kind, I'm just nervous about it
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temporal1

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nett wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:05 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:08 pm I bought ivermectin yesterday, but of course it's the kind for horses. The cashier at the store told me she is selling a lot of it for covid people.

I'm really nervous about giving it to my husband! I am giving him lots of supplements. He is on two transplant medications so I looked up the warnings of interactions for his transplant medications. Interestingly enough, vaccines are on the list of interactions with his transplant medications! Including the covid-19 vaccine!
Is there a reason you don't want to get a (human?) prescription from a doctor? We have no problems getting it legitimately around here.

1. Rx for humans?
2. i live in downstate Illinois (aka, the state of DNC Chicago).
3. i messaged my GP 2 weeks ago, no reply. it’s an efficient msg system with quick replies, 24-48 hrs. not this time.
4. i ordered the human type online, a site promising physician prescriptions and oversight. https://www.pushhealth.com/
5. i’ve received email contact from them, no physician contact. (i presume i’m “in line” for contact.) BUT, Illinois may have measures to intercede, to not allow purchase. I DON’T KNOW.

i’m not recommending the link i added above. i know nothing about them. I HOPE IT’S NOT FRAUD.
i’m not recommending Ivermectin, i can’t, i have no medical background OR experience with it.

i want to have Ivermectin on hand, in the event i contract COVID.
i’ve read enough to believe it’s unlikely to harm me, and, it might relieve symptoms, and/or shorten the illness, hopefully, without hospitalization. i am bothered that i might be hospitalized yet not receive meds that might help, like Ivermectin.

i told my adult daughter, i’m not interested in taking it today, BUT, if i were sick enough, i might be very happy to take it.

i’m interpretting my doctor’s silence as:
1) “i can’t speak on this.” and,
2) because my doctors have NEVER been shy to advise me against bad ideas, i take her silence to mean, “it won’t hurt you.”

Valerie lives in Ohio. :)
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Valerie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:26 pm
nett wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:05 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:08 pm I bought ivermectin yesterday, but of course it's the kind for horses. The cashier at the store told me she is selling a lot of it for covid people.

I'm really nervous about giving it to my husband! I am giving him lots of supplements. He is on two transplant medications so I looked up the warnings of interactions for his transplant medications. Interestingly enough, vaccines are on the list of interactions with his transplant medications! Including the covid-19 vaccine!
Is there a reason you don't want to get a prescription from a doctor? We have no problems getting it legitimately around here.
I seriously doubt his primary care physician would prescribe it, I bought the horsey kind, I'm just nervous about it
Probably for malpractice reasons. Any doctor who prescribes medication for off-label use is opening themselves up to increased risk of malpractice lawsuits if something goes wrong and the medication doesn’t work or there are noxious side effects.
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temporal1

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(i believe) numerous medications are regularly prescribed for “off-label” purposes.
one example, birth control pills are prescribed for various complaints.

bc pills are distributed to teens+children like candy.
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