Bunny Trails

[Neto]

but I refuse to use a bus, especially a bus that's pretending to be a train

It IDENTIFIES as a train, so therefore it IS a train. How judgmental of you. You seem to be trainsphobic.

That might be better than "buss gafobic". (Hint: read this as PA German.)

[Grace]

One of our young adult children has taken a temporary job in California. She has to prove many things to acquire health care in California, like proof of citizenship, proof of birth, Social security card, lawful presence (not incarcerated), that she isn't an American Indian or Alaska Native. But the real weird thing is, she has to prove she is not deceased.

The proof requirement reads:

"A statement with the full name of the person telling us they are not deceased, and information provided is true and correct to the best of their knowledge. "The person identified as deceased must sign the letter."

Okay what am I missing here? How does a deceased person sign a letter? Is this an example of the lack of common sense we see so much of today?

[RZehr]

One of our young adult children has taken a temporary job in California. She has to prove many things to acquire health care in California, like proof of citizenship, proof of birth, Social security card, lawful presence (not incarcerated), that she isn't an American Indian or Alaska Native. But the real weird thing is, she has to prove she is not deceased.

The proof requirement reads:

"A statement with the full name of the person telling us they are not deceased, and information provided is true and correct to the best of their knowledge. "The person identified as deceased must sign the letter."

Okay what am I missing here? How does a deceased person sign a letter?

Is this agency also in charge of their voter registrations?

[Grace]

One of our young adult children has taken a temporary job in California. She has to prove many things to acquire health care in California, like proof of citizenship, proof of birth, Social security card, lawful presence (not incarcerated), that she isn't an American Indian or Alaska Native. But the real weird thing is, she has to prove she is not deceased.

The proof requirement reads:

"A statement with the full name of the person telling us they are not deceased, and information provided is true and correct to the best of their knowledge. "The person identified as deceased must sign the letter."

Okay what am I missing here? How does a deceased person sign a letter?

Is this agency also in charge of their voter registrations?

LOL, Probably not. However you have a point. There are nine different things she has to verify and prove. If voters had to prove all these nine aspects in order to vote, there would be a huge outcry from liberals.

[temporal1]

One of our young adult children has taken a temporary job in California. She has to prove many things to acquire health care in California, like proof of citizenship, proof of birth, Social security card, lawful presence (not incarcerated), that she isn't an American Indian or Alaska Native. But the real weird thing is, she has to prove she is not deceased.

The proof requirement reads:

"A statement with the full name of the person telling us they are not deceased, and information provided is true and correct to the best of their knowledge. "The person identified as deceased must sign the letter." Okay what am I missing here? How does a deceased person sign a letter?

Is this agency also in charge of their voter registrations?

LOL, Probably not. However you have a point.

There are nine different things she has to verify and prove.
If voters had to prove all these nine aspects in order to vote, there would be a huge outcry from liberals.

Prove 9 for an outcry? - Nope. 1 requirement is all that’s needed for a lib outcry. Not 1, really, just “the idea” of a requirement is sufficient.

Does your daughter have to prove she’s left-coast educated? The question regarding “deceased” suggests it would be helpful.

[Grace]

Does your daughter have to prove she’s left-coast educated? The question regarding “deceased” suggests it would be helpful.

She has numerous things against her. Educated on the east coast with 6th to 12th grade in Christian schools.

[ken_sylvania]

One of our young adult children has taken a temporary job in California. She has to prove many things to acquire health care in California, like proof of citizenship, proof of birth, Social security card, lawful presence (not incarcerated), that she isn't an American Indian or Alaska Native. But the real weird thing is, she has to prove she is not deceased.

The proof requirement reads:

"A statement with the full name of the person telling us they are not deceased, and information provided is true and correct to the best of their knowledge. "The person identified as deceased must sign the letter."

Okay what am I missing here? How does a deceased person sign a letter? Is this an example of the lack of common sense we see so much of today?

Nah, I think you missed the point. A person who identifies as deceased isn't necessarily dead, any more than a man who identifies as a woman can give birth.

[temporal1]

Does your daughter have to prove she’s left-coast educated? The question regarding “deceased” suggests it would be helpful.

She has numerous things against her. Educated on the east coast with 6th to 12th grade in Christian schools.

^^i have ongoing prayers for the Holy Spirit to protect and guide children, teens, young people as they attempt to navigate this seemingly “worse than necessary” world. So much misery seems deliberate / self-imposed.

One of our young adult children has taken a temporary job in California. She has to prove many things to acquire health care in California, like proof of citizenship, proof of birth, Social security card, lawful presence (not incarcerated), that she isn't an American Indian or Alaska Native. But the real weird thing is, she has to prove she is not deceased.

The proof requirement reads:
"A statement with the full name of the person telling us they are not deceased, and information provided is true and correct to the best of their knowledge. "The person identified as deceased must sign the letter."

Okay what am I missing here? How does a deceased person sign a letter? Is this an example of the lack of common sense we see so much of today?

Nah, I think you missed the point.
A person who identifies as deceased isn't necessarily dead, any more than a man who identifies as a woman can give birth.

^^It’s confusing, alright, notice the wording doesn’t suggest one who identifies as deceased, but one who is identified as deceased!
Is this yet another horror of presuming another’s state of being by appearance?! By conventional science?! How dare they.

Death Certificate: Do you identify as deceased? Or some combination thereof?

[ken_sylvania]

Population densities? Technological advancement comes with high population densities and large cities. That is necessary for the sort of specialization required for advanced industry. Is there any evidence of giant cities during this time, either Biblical or archaeological?

And we have had much longer than 2000 years. Isn't the flood usually dated to about 2,000 BC give or take? Which would mean 4,100 years since the flood.

Good points. I had my flood date incorrect for some reason. Population is an important component.

So the pre-flood had 2,000 years and we’ve had 4,000 years. So the only things they had was better intelligence and longer lifespans. Which in my opinion are probably not as important as more years and higher population numbers.

However how much invention really happened between the flood and say 1000 A.D.? If most of the invention took place in the last 1,000 years, maybe the pre-flood people had enough time to invent in their 2,000 years.
And perhaps, assuming a couple hundred year lifespan, maybe they procreated at a much, much higher rate than the last 1,000 years. Maybe instead of having babies from 15 to 45 years old, they had babies from 15 to 115 years old. Maybe they had a huge population.

But this all seems pretty implausible to me.

Why are you assuming that pre-flood people were more intelligent? Is there evidence for that? They obviously weren't intelligent enough to avoid being exterminated by God. That seems pretty dumb. Debauchery is kind of the opposite of productivity.

Ancient people were just as intelligent as modern humans. There is no evidence that I am aware of which suggests that human intelligence has evolved in the past 2000 years. In fact, perhaps there is evidence to the contrary judging by how much stupidity we see today

So it always makes me roll my eyes when people assume that ancient people were not intelligent enough to build the things they built. The pyramids, Roman concrete, the Easter Island Moai, Stonehenge, etc. When you have 100,000 slaves and unlimited time you can get a lot accomplished.

Well, OK then.

[ken_sylvania]

Maybe my family is weird and unique and this sort of thing isn't representative of other families and churches. I have no idea honestly. But it does color my experience. We also had a lot of weird and intense COVID-related family drama but that is a whole other story.

Yea that helps to explain where you're coming from. That's not the way Christians ought to behave.

It is also why I found this forum and then stuck around few years ago. Not the LGBT thing specifically. But to get a better sense of where some of my family is coming from. Like, for example, why some of my CMC cousins are such complete gun nuts*. Since it is really hard or impossible to have these discussions in real life. And I have learned a tremendous amount here that I would never have really understood in any other way.

*When we aren't having LGBT drama the boy cousins love to play hooky from family events to search out their favorite gun shops in the area to look for some special discovery and then stand around in the parking lot with their trunks open, speaking in hushed tones and admiring their latest haul. By contrast, I like to bring my bike along to explore the local back roads that that makes me the weird one.

Have you got any answers on why it is that gun culture is tied to nonresistance and peacemaking?