Major attack on Israel by Hamas

[Soloist]

This reminds me of the story of Desmond Doss, a WW II medic. He was originally disliked by his platoon because he was a conscientious objector. He didn’t carry a weapon and refused participate in any kind of violence. However, on the battlefield he would often put himself as great risk going directly into the line of fire to go out and save fallen soldiers of his platoon. They came to regard him with great respect and he ended up being a Medal of Honor recipient.

He came from a Seventh Day Adventist background.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Doss

Wife: Yeah, there is Desmond Doss and a few other medics in World War II that chose to do that, although I think most of them are from Adventist or other backgrounds. I would respect that decision, although I know Doss and Keith Argraves were still pretty patriotic. Doss actually volunteered for a service when he could’ve gotten out as a conscientious objector because he wanted to help his country, which annoyed them, because it was easier having him just be a conscientious objector than still wanting to go out there and not carry a weapon.
Most Mennonite and other anabaptist groups on the other hand would feel uncomfortable doing anything war related, including being a cook, medic, or anything else. When drafted, they would end up working at psych hospitals or other hospitals, doing wildfire management, and farming, which would have helped in some ways, but I find it a little bit different whenever someone’s doing that during a time of draft or when there’s not a war going on than volunteering to go across the world to do it for a specific country when they wouldn’t likely do it with any other foreign countries and may try to use their church affiliation to get out of it in the United States. If they are consistent about it, that would be one thing, and I wouldn’t have as an issue with Christians who already hold that stance volunteering for it.

Yes, I understand that’s how most Mennonites look at it. Desmond Doss, however, didn’t just save American lives, he also treated enemy soldiers. I understand how choosing to put on a uniform could still make a big difference to Mennonites.

Wife: Yeah, not verified (one of his battle buddies said it after he got his awards), but I certainly don’t look down on him for following his convictions, just like I would hope he wouldn’t look down on us for being willing to do stuff on Saturdays. As far as I know, other than that last battle, he was unwilling to do any work on the sabbath, which would be consistent with his beliefs. It seems like God might have honored his beliefs, and I certainly wouldn’t wanna argue against that.

[RZehr]

I admire and highly respect Doss for his strong convictions against killing and for helping the wounded. While I would still discourage anyone from joining the military to be a medic.

[RZehr]

Yes. Now do the math - 100 trucks. 2,000,000+ civilians. Massive bombings. Do you think 100 trucks can even begin to satisfy the basic needs?

700 truck loads of aid per week can go a really long way in delivering the much needed aid.

It really depends on how much a “truckload” is. Here in the US, a typical OTR van can haul 44,000 pounds of bagged grain. Something like this:

So with that number, times 100 trucks, divided by 2 million people, that comes to 2.2 pounds per person per day.

But I can’t find how much these trucks are actually hauling.
I did find this picture here. https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-100- ... s-war/amp/

So if we count the pallets and bags on the rear truck in that picture, we might come up with 65 bags. Those look like they could be 25 kg bags. If so, we have only about 3,600 pounds on that truck. If that is the average truckload amount, then that comes to .18 pound per person.

[mike]

I wonder if any of these guys are Mennonites.

More info on these chaps

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-772559

[ohio jones]

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About time for another " 'Amish' in Israel" thread?

[mike]

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About time for another " 'Amish' in Israel" thread?

Did you catch the pun?

[Ken]

But I can’t find how much these trucks are actually hauling.

This is what most of the aid convoys into Gaza look like (from the UN's page). Given the little I know about trucking in the developing world, I doubt they are limiting themselves to any regulatory limits on load weights. Some of those are triple axle trailers so they can no doubt haul a lot.

[ohio jones]

More info on these chaps

About time for another " 'Amish' in Israel" thread?

Did you catch the pun?

That's what spurred my reply.

[Josh]

Ken, Israel is a first world country and controls all borders and customs before anyone can get to Gaza. I would be confident they would enforce normal weight restrictions on their roads, and suspect they would be even more vigilant about enforcement on shipments destined for Gaza.

"We want to live for Israel; that is our goal," said 24-year-old Yosef Strain from Montanna, his voice carrying a subtle twang.[/auote]

I have met my share of Yosefs, but have yet to run into one with a subtle “twanf”. Then again, I’ve never met someone from “Montanna”.

[Ken]

Ken, Israel is a first world country and controls all borders and customs before anyone can get to Gaza. I would be confident they would enforce normal weight restrictions on their roads, and suspect they would be even more vigilant about enforcement on shipments destined for Gaza.

All the aid and truck convoys are coming in from Egypt via the Rafah crossing. Which is where those pictures are from. Those are Egyptian flags flying in the border post pictures I posted above. There aren't any Israeli roads between Egypt and Gaza.

And those triple-axle trailers have functional weight limits in the 60,000 to 80,000 lb. range.