Neto wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:48 pm Those photos do not appear on my side, so I didn't see that, or know what it was about.
But I did hear (some time ago, before the Russian Federation started this war in Ukraine) that one of the criteria of joining NATO would be to legalize some of this immorality.
I don't know if that has been the cause of some hesitation or lack of support for NATO on the part of some Ukrainians, but I wouldn't be surprised, and it seems to indicate that someone in NATO thought there was a problem with Ukraine's stance on these types of things.
Before obama clarified his stance on prioritizing sodomy via U.S. Foreign Aid, i honestly had NO IDEA such shenanigans (extortion) were going on. That is, trading benefits+protections for acceptance of UNWANTED extreme Leftist policies. Ordinary people with ordinary morality would not guess as much. Of course, scriptures tell Christians to give freely (without demands or expectations).
https://www.voanews.com/a/obama-elevate ... 74955.html
(i believe Jazzman is correct) that Russia has been famous for vodka consumption, depravity typically follows drunkenness.
There can be no serious expectation Ukraine is a stranger to Russia’s carnal problems.
However.
There are exceptions, and this forum naturally highlights them, with ancestry, family, friends, and first-person experiences.
The tone here has largely been that Ukraine is an innocent hapless victim of mysterious aggression. i mostly saw it that way, reading mostly what i find on this forum. Real people, godly people, are hurt.
as a complete outsider, when i saw mike’s posts about talks, this became my focus, most of all.
praying for talks, praying for Putin, and, of course, Zelensky.
i definitely saw Ukraine as a country with 2 wolves at its door. i still do.
after learning of N Pelosi’s “wink-wink” from Billie Jean King to Zelensky AS UKRAINE WAS UNDER MILITARY ATTACK,
then, stumbling upon Zelensky’s vulgar dance history, my prayers increased for all involved.
there can be no doubt about the West’s far-left shameless agenda to promote+celebrate prideful sin.
the question now is: how deep into it is Zelensky?? not whether he’s involved, but how far.
he is in a really bad place. i wonder if he’s regretting any of his past??
right now, he may be looking at full-blown acceptance of wickedness (it will be demanded) versus Russia.
a rock and a hard place.
Jesus Christ is The Way.
(to me) Putin’s proposals, the little shared in public, look reasonable. definitely a starting place. neutral Ukraine.
will the West allow resolution? i have my doubts. the dirty West wants Ukraine. not a neutral Ukraine.
Jazzman is overall correct: no angels in the politics. there should be no rose-colored glasses for the West.
(that’s how it looks to me.) knowing, not all facts are known.