Grace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:43 am
The doctor who invented RNA ...
That would be Dr. God.
mRNA was invented around 1960, by researchers who are now dead or in their 90s. Perhaps you mean one of them, though they shouldn't be taking credit as if they were working alone.
mRNA was invented by God too. It's just one of the various forms of RNA that exists in every one of our cells and always has.
Using mRNA as a means to trick your cells into generating spike proteins to confer immunity is what they are actually talking about. Robert Malone was one of the first to propose using mRNA as a form of vaccine and did some initial testing on mice and wrote some of the first papers on the topic. But the path from theoretical idea to implementation of a specific vaccine for Covid has involved hundreds if not thousands of researchers working for decades. It is kind of like the inventor of the battery or electric motor claiming credit for Tesla. Yes, you can't make a Tesla without batteries or electric motors. But a whole lot more goes into building an electric car than just a battery and motor.
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Ken wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:03 pm
mRNA was invented by God too. It's just one of the various forms of RNA that exists in every one of our cells and always has.
Using mRNA as a means to trick your cells into generating spike proteins to confer immunity is what they are actually talking about. Robert Malone was one of the first to propose using mRNA as a form of vaccine and did some initial testing on mice and wrote some of the first papers on the topic. But the path from theoretical idea to implementation of a specific vaccine for Covid has involved hundreds if not thousands of researchers working for decades. It is kind of like the inventor of the battery or electric motor claiming credit for Tesla. Yes, you can't make a Tesla without batteries or electric motors. But a whole lot more goes into building an electric car than just a battery and motor.
I don't agree with your analysis. the technology to produce mRNA vaccines has been available for a quite some time, and is quite simple. After all, it only took modern "2 days" to make their formulation. The problem is, mRNA vaccines have never worked, they have all long term safety problems.
Ken wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:03 pm
mRNA was invented by God too. It's just one of the various forms of RNA that exists in every one of our cells and always has.
Using mRNA as a means to trick your cells into generating spike proteins to confer immunity is what they are actually talking about. Robert Malone was one of the first to propose using mRNA as a form of vaccine and did some initial testing on mice and wrote some of the first papers on the topic. But the path from theoretical idea to implementation of a specific vaccine for Covid has involved hundreds if not thousands of researchers working for decades. It is kind of like the inventor of the battery or electric motor claiming credit for Tesla. Yes, you can't make a Tesla without batteries or electric motors. But a whole lot more goes into building an electric car than just a battery and motor.
I don't agree with your analysis. the technology to produce mRNA vaccines has been available for a quite some time, and is quite simple. After all, it only took modern "2 days" to make their formulation. The problem is, mRNA vaccines have never worked, they have all long term safety problems.
If it was that simple, labs and pharmaceutical companies all over the developing world would be tossing together their own mRNA vaccines and pushing them out rather than waiting months or years for Pfizer and Moderna.
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Valerie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:51 am
One of my dearest friends and sisters in the Lord at the beginning of all this plandemic- did something intentional that I'm not sure most Christians did. She prayed to God for him to reveal truth about this. It was important to her to know where this was all coming from and who and what to believe. She already knows Jesus Christ who is the way the truth and the life but we also need to pray for discernment as we know as time goes on more and more people will be led astray in a variety of ways which will end up leading to the control of the Antichrist.
Here we are 2 years later and it turns out that a lot of what she originally read and dots that she was connecting turned out to be true. I'm just wondering what you think of a recent text that she sent me
"Every doctor I have listened to has been acknowledged as RENOWN PHYSICIANS in their fields and they now have 17,000 other doctors that have joined them in fighting this medical tyranny. They TESTIFIED that people are NOT DYING FROM COVID -- THEY ARE DYING from lack of care and medical MALFEASANCE-- which is the deliberate act of harming a patient. Every Doctor and nurse has made
This statement. "
I don't know this person and their track record regarding how accurate what God tells them comes to pass to know this was God behind this. There are so many today that give prophesies and/or words of knowledge that I believe are Christians but some of what they say God told them didn't come to pass, so then how do we receive what they say ? Some very respected Bible teachers have even dated Christ's return and were wrong. And yet folks continue to listen to them and what God is supposedly telling them. I do agree we do need the gift of discernment active in our gatherings.
Regarding being 'led astray' in the last days, I believe this often comes from the text where Jesus was asked about the end times (Mathew 24) and He said that many will come saying 'I am the Christ' and I think preterists would say that already occurred (is Gcdonner in the house ?). I don't hear this happening by 'many' today.
Valerie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:51 am
One of my dearest friends and sisters in the Lord at the beginning of all this plandemic- did something intentional that I'm not sure most Christians did. She prayed to God for him to reveal truth about this. It was important to her to know where this was all coming from and who and what to believe. She already knows Jesus Christ who is the way the truth and the life but we also need to pray for discernment as we know as time goes on more and more people will be led astray in a variety of ways which will end up leading to the control of the Antichrist.
Here we are 2 years later and it turns out that a lot of what she originally read and dots that she was connecting turned out to be true. I'm just wondering what you think of a recent text that she sent me
"Every doctor I have listened to has been acknowledged as RENOWN PHYSICIANS in their fields and they now have 17,000 other doctors that have joined them in fighting this medical tyranny. They TESTIFIED that people are NOT DYING FROM COVID -- THEY ARE DYING from lack of care and medical MALFEASANCE-- which is the deliberate act of harming a patient. Every Doctor and nurse has made
This statement. "
I don't know this person and their track record regarding how accurate what God tells them comes to pass to know this was God behind this. There are so many today that give prophesies and/or words of knowledge that I believe are Christians but some of what they say God told them didn't come to pass, so then how do we receive what they say ? Some very respected Bible teachers have even dated Christ's return and were wrong. And yet folks continue to listen to them and what God is supposedly telling them. I do agree we do need the gift of discernment active in our gatherings.
Regarding being 'led astray' in the last days, I believe this often comes from the text where Jesus was asked about the end times (Mathew 24) and He said that many will come saying 'I am the Christ' and I think preterists would say that already occurred (is Gcdonner in the house ?). I don't hear this happening by 'many' today.
So what do you say to someone that you care about that you know that in the beginning of this pandemic really sought truth from God and prayed for truth about all this. Are they to believe that God misled them then if they weren't accurately connecting the dots and finding the right doctors that were expressing and exposing what they believe to be lies? Especially when they tell you that at this point there are now 17,000 doctors around the world that are united in this area of what she has come to believe by praying, so basically supporting what she believed early on-
Valerie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:50 pmSo what do you say to someone that you care about that you know that in the beginning of this pandemic really sought truth from God and prayed for truth about all this.
Fact is, Christians who pray and seek God's truth often come to different conclusions. Not just false Christians, but people whose faith walk I trust.
Often, these are claims that can be tested against knowable facts.
Ken wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:36 pmIf it was that simple, labs and pharmaceutical companies all over the developing world would be tossing together their own mRNA vaccines and pushing them out rather than waiting months or years for Pfizer and Moderna.
Normally, developing new drugs or vaccines takes years of research and billions of dollars, and manufacturers can get sued if their drugs or vaccines cause injuries, kill people, etc.
Pfizer, Moderna et al got a unique case where they had no liability for deaths/injuries plus they didn't have to pass normal drug or vaccine trials. Trump acted like this was a good thing, calling it "cutting regulation" and "cutting red tape" and naming it "Operation Warp Speed".
silentreader wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:12 am
Looks like Alberta Health switched out another graph within the past week, but I have absolutely no way of proving it.
Okay now THAT is weird, the old graph is back again. And it looks very similar to what happened in Ontario, except hospitalizations haven't caught up yet.
Valerie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:51 am
One of my dearest friends and sisters in the Lord at the beginning of all this plandemic- did something intentional that I'm not sure most Christians did. She prayed to God for him to reveal truth about this. It was important to her to know where this was all coming from and who and what to believe. She already knows Jesus Christ who is the way the truth and the life but we also need to pray for discernment as we know as time goes on more and more people will be led astray in a variety of ways which will end up leading to the control of the Antichrist.
Here we are 2 years later and it turns out that a lot of what she originally read and dots that she was connecting turned out to be true. I'm just wondering what you think of a recent text that she sent me
"Every doctor I have listened to has been acknowledged as RENOWN PHYSICIANS in their fields and they now have 17,000 other doctors that have joined them in fighting this medical tyranny. They TESTIFIED that people are NOT DYING FROM COVID -- THEY ARE DYING from lack of care and medical MALFEASANCE-- which is the deliberate act of harming a patient. Every Doctor and nurse has made
This statement. "
I don't know this person and their track record regarding how accurate what God tells them comes to pass to know this was God behind this. There are so many today that give prophesies and/or words of knowledge that I believe are Christians but some of what they say God told them didn't come to pass, so then how do we receive what they say ? Some very respected Bible teachers have even dated Christ's return and were wrong. And yet folks continue to listen to them and what God is supposedly telling them. I do agree we do need the gift of discernment active in our gatherings.
Regarding being 'led astray' in the last days, I believe this often comes from the text where Jesus was asked about the end times (Mathew 24) and He said that many will come saying 'I am the Christ' and I think preterists would say that already occurred (is Gcdonner in the house ?). I don't hear this happening by 'many' today.
So what do you say to someone that you care about that you know that in the beginning of this pandemic really sought truth from God and prayed for truth about all this. Are they to believe that God misled them then if they weren't accurately connecting the dots and finding the right doctors that were expressing and exposing what they believe to be lies? Especially when they tell you that at this point there are now 17,000 doctors around the world that are united in this area of what she has come to believe by praying, so basically supporting what she believed early on-
I can't say for sure what I would do but I think I would ask her what she now believes God wants her to do with this information. I would think if God gave her some answer to her prayer about what is the truth of the matter, then God is expecting her to do something with this truth. Perhaps the next step to suggest, if she doesn't know what next to do, is pray again for direction on what God wants her to do with her belief.
I believe that millions of humans seek God's truth about all kinds of things and yet, for instance, we have many, many Christian groups all saying God is leading their group into truth yet it is often not the same truth as another group of believers. 17,000 doesn't sound to me like a very big number considering what the total number of 'renown physicans' there might be in this world but I really don't know. Any idea what this 17,000 is as a % of 'renown physicans' there are and firstly what qualifies one to be a 'renown physican' ? My human reasonings would seek more answers but I don't think I would go there.
Anyway, I wouldn't challenge her belief on answered prayer but rather encourage her to continue to pray for direction on what to do next with her understanding. Let God work it out and pray for her to know what she is to do next.
