Ken wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:52 amThe Omicron wave started in NY on about 12/9 when the numbers on this graph started to go upwards. If you want to do a very deep dive into NYC Covid data it is all on the NYC Health Department Covid portal where this is from. More graphs and data than you could possibly want. Google is your friend.
No, it doesn't. Data has not been published on partially vaccinated or "fully vaccinated" vs. also boosted populations.
There are an infinite number of ways that one can parse this sort of data. The NYC and NY State health department portals have an immense amount of data available. And many jurisdictions do report out vaccinated, unvaccinated and partially vaccinated separately. As well as the effects of boosters. They do that here in Washington. The information is out there if you want to look for it.
Partially vaccinated means incomplete dosing. it does not include people in the 14 day window of any of the doses.
Do you think that data would be useful Ken? How do you know 100% of "Unvaccinated" deaths and hospitalizations aren't occurring in that 14 day window? Since the burden of proof of safety is on the proponents, shall we assume that they are until you can prove otherwise?
silentreader wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:12 am
Looks like Alberta Health switched out another graph within the past week, but I have absolutely no way of proving it.
Ken wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:35 am
Is this what Covid success looks like? Denmark is lifting all Covid-related restrictions because, due to their high vaccination rate, they have essentially decoupled Covid infections from the severe consequences of the disease. Denmark is at 81% of the total population fully vaccinated vs 64% for the US.
I don't disagree with their approach, but to say that vaccination has decoupled cases from severe disease is just not true. hospitalizations are close to an all-time high in Denmark. I think Denmark might have figured out that vaccinations are helping them out of this "pandemic", nor did their lockdowns work, so they are left with no choice but to return to normal, and hope they achieve herd immunity without their hospital system buckling. I think they're do fine. They're a pretty healthy country.
Their current Covid hospitalization rate is about 1/10th that of the United States. And their current death rate and aggregate death rate is also a tiny fraction of that in the US. I expect they know what they are doing.
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A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
One of my dearest friends and sisters in the Lord at the beginning of all this plandemic- did something intentional that I'm not sure most Christians did. She prayed to God for him to reveal truth about this. It was important to her to know where this was all coming from and who and what to believe. She already knows Jesus Christ who is the way the truth and the life but we also need to pray for discernment as we know as time goes on more and more people will be led astray in a variety of ways which will end up leading to the control of the Antichrist.
Here we are 2 years later and it turns out that a lot of what she originally read and dots that she was connecting turned out to be true. I'm just wondering what you think of a recent text that she sent me
"Every doctor I have listened to has been acknowledged as RENOWN PHYSICIANS in their fields and they now have 17,000 other doctors that have joined them in fighting this medical tyranny. They TESTIFIED that people are NOT DYING FROM COVID -- THEY ARE DYING from lack of care and medical MALFEASANCE-- which is the deliberate act of harming a patient. Every Doctor and nurse has made
This statement. "
Valerie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:51 am
"Every doctor I have listened to has been acknowledged as RENOWN PHYSICIANS in their fields and they now have 17,000 other doctors that have joined them in fighting this medical tyranny. They TESTIFIED that people are NOT DYING FROM COVID -- THEY ARE DYING from lack of care and medical MALFEASANCE-- which is the deliberate act of harming a patient. Every Doctor and nurse has made This statement. "
This is an absolute and I would say not accurate. Some have died from Covid. Some have died with Covid. Some have died because of the strain of the lockdowns and restrictions. Most medical personnel truly care and try their best. There is a big issue with group think and big pharma has convinced all the big voices to push vaccines. They had to eliminate other options or they would not have gotten emergency use authorization. Fear is also driving a lot of people.
Psalm 20:7 Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.
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Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.
I think I am funnier than I really am.
This is an absolute and I would say not accurate. Some have died from Covid. Some have died with Covid. Some have died because of the strain of the lockdowns and restrictions. Most medical personnel truly care and try their best. There is a big issue with group think and big pharma has convinced all the big voices to push vaccines. They had to eliminate other options or they would not have gotten emergency use authorization. Fear is also driving a lot of people.
Psalm 20:7 Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.
The doctor who invented RNA claims that close to a ½ million people died needlessly because Dr. Fauci and the CDC used their power to suppress safe and effective therapeutics like HCQ, zinc and Ivermectin. Follow the money.
Valerie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:51 am
"Every doctor I have listened to has been acknowledged as RENOWN PHYSICIANS in their fields and they now have 17,000 other doctors that have joined them in fighting this medical tyranny. They TESTIFIED that people are NOT DYING FROM COVID -- THEY ARE DYING from lack of care and medical MALFEASANCE-- which is the deliberate act of harming a patient. Every Doctor and nurse has made This statement. "
This is an absolute and I would say not accurate. Some have died from Covid. Some have died with Covid. Some have died because of the strain of the lockdowns and restrictions. Most medical personnel truly care and try their best. There is a big issue with group think and big pharma has convinced all the big voices to push vaccines. They had to eliminate other options or they would not have gotten emergency use authorization. Fear is also driving a lot of people.
Psalm 20:7 Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.
I know what you're saying and I wrestle with this. I think that the $17,000 doctors main point is not that people don't die from covid, but that they could have been prevented from dying- granted God is sovereign over each and every life that ended up having covid including those that He apparently in His Sovereignty allowed to die. We will never know how many of these lives could have been prevented from dying. I realize the average medical worker is not aware of so much- I was speaking with one of the head people on the covid floor in the hospital letting her know I wanted to donate my antibodies for the monoclonal antibody treatment. Do you know after almost 2 years of working on that floor, she had no idea what I was talking about?
I spoke with a lot of them since my husband was in the hospital 3 weeks with life threatening covid in his case. I wanted him to get ivermectin and they denied it to him instead insisting on remdesivir which has very harmful potential side effects. I know of several people that had got through the covid in the hospital but then died of infections or blood out from a another procedure, or a fisticated - these three we're about ready to go home.
I spoke with a nurse in Tennessee who had used ivermectin herself on her own. And we were discussing the healthcare system and she does not believe that the average healthcare worker is aware of the evil coming down from the top- so we are thankful for the hard workers and sacrifice of those caring for the sick while not denying that there is something bigger going on. I'm wrestling all this out myself based on many doctors including the onventer of mRNA vaccines that Grace mentioned and what he's had to say and based on the doctors that have been able to keep people out of the hospital with their way of treating their Covid patients.
Realize these are doctors that are criticizing the healthcare system..
Grace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:43 am
The doctor who invented RNA ...
That would be Dr. God.
mRNA was invented around 1960, by researchers who are now dead or in their 90s. Perhaps you mean one of them, though they shouldn't be taking credit as if they were working alone.
Valerie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:51 am
"Every doctor I have listened to has been acknowledged as RENOWN PHYSICIANS in their fields and they now have 17,000 other doctors that have joined them in fighting this medical tyranny. They TESTIFIED that people are NOT DYING FROM COVID -- THEY ARE DYING from lack of care and medical MALFEASANCE-- which is the deliberate act of harming a patient. Every Doctor and nurse has made This statement. "
This is an absolute and I would say not accurate. Some have died from Covid. Some have died with Covid. Some have died because of the strain of the lockdowns and restrictions. Most medical personnel truly care and try their best. There is a big issue with group think and big pharma has convinced all the big voices to push vaccines. They had to eliminate other options or they would not have gotten emergency use authorization. Fear is also driving a lot of people.
Psalm 20:7 Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.
Agreed - some have died of COVID, just as some die of flus or colds. This is in fact how many elderly people die. When you are infirm and in your 80s or 90s, a simple cold or flu can take you out. But the fact is, we all have to die of something some day.
Fear and stress and anxiety are also killers. The Bible even says that in the latter days, "men's hearts will fail them for fear". Walking around being afraid of a simple, non-deadly disease 24/7 is itself a killer.
