
However, deaths are still flat, despite the fact that case numbers have been increasing for almost two months now. This isn't like last winter's surge at all, so far. That's a good thing.



I agree except for one addition - natural immunity. An absolutely HUGE percentage of the world's population has already had Covid. So, to list what I think are the contributing factors, in no particular order.Dan Z wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:51 am That's happening worldwide Mike - each wave of cases has a lower corresponding death peak. I attribute it to improved treatments and vaccines, and quite possibly a viral tendency to become less lethal with each significant variant. In terms of death rate - while COVID is still lethal, it does not seem to be what it once was.
What? This has nothing to do with vaccines. The current vaccines do not make any difference with the Omicron variant.Dan Z wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:51 am That's happening worldwide Mike - each wave of cases has a lower corresponding death peak. I attribute it to improved treatments and vaccines, and quite possibly a viral tendency to become less lethal with each significant variant. In terms of death rate - while COVID is still lethal, it does not seem to be what it once was.
Agreed - I think Natural Immunity certainly has played a role here in limiting spread and mortality...although up to this point reinfections and breakthrough cases have not been a huge factor in caseloads - and thus not a big factor in the death rates of the infected either. From all I have read, up to this point COVID has mainly been infecting those without natural or vaccine-derived immunity. Sounds like the Omicron variant might very well change that though.mike wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:08 amI agree except for one addition - natural immunity. An absolutely HUGE percentage of the world's population has already had Covid. So, to list what I think are the contributing factors, in no particular order.Dan Z wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:51 am That's happening worldwide Mike - each wave of cases has a lower corresponding death peak. I attribute it to improved treatments and vaccines, and quite possibly a viral tendency to become less lethal with each significant variant. In terms of death rate - while COVID is still lethal, it does not seem to be what it once was.
Natural immunity
Vaccination
Improved treatments
Less lethal mutations of the virus

Is it the Omicron variant there?silentreader wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:19 pm Well it didn't take as long as I expected....
Province of Ontario today new case rates: Fully vaccinated 32.39 per 100,000 -- 77.5% of daily total
Unvaccinated 31.93 per 100,000 -- 16% of daily total
Partially vaccinated 29.43 per 100,000
Hospitalization rates are not fully up to date but appear to be relatively stable, fully vaccinated people make up just over 50% of "hospitalizations but not in ICU" but only 24% of ICU cases.
That seems really brilliant. I mean, who would argue against the idea that a health-care worker should be allowed to go back to work for three days while they might still be contagious. It's not like they're in close contact with other people all day long or anything....NY Times wrote:England said this week that it was reducing the number of days that people must isolate for after showing Covid-19 symptoms to seven days from 10 days, a change that officials said could help alleviate the shortages. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention made a similar move on Thursday, though that change applies only to health workers.