Bunny Trails: Politics

[Ken]

The reason you don't see Biden flags everywhere is because Democrats don't do the same "cult of personality" as Republicans.

Many did with Obama.

Absolutely true! How is it Ken missed this????

I was more or less around liberal politics during the entire Obama administration and I never saw anything like the cult of personality that surrounds Trump. Not even close. Sure he was relatively popular and charismatic. But you never saw stuff like this:



or this...



or this...



Or even this....



nearly two years after the election was over.

About all the imagery you would ever see about Obama was the classic campaign posters and even then pretty much only during the actual campaigns.



And never trucks driving around with Obama flags and or yards full of Obama signs except during the actual political campaigns when all politicians do it. Certainly never outside the actual campaigns. How much has Obama been in the public eye since 2016? Barely not at all. Trump hasn't even announced he is running again and yet was it you or someone else who told us that rural Ohio is still covered in Trump flags. Why?

In fact, a large percentage of progressives were actually highly disappointed in Obama and that provided a lot of fuel for the Bernie Sanders campaigns in 2016 and 2020. Frankly, come to think of it, Bernie Sanders probably had a bigger cult of personality around him than Obama.

[Valerie]

I think it was probably the difference of what Obama accomplished after elected vs Trump after he was elected that explains the enthusiasm. That's why its important these investigations don't stop until all is uncovered. I also believe the hatred spewed at President Trump only encouraged .more support as he was actually following through with ca.paign promises that got him elected- it wasn't personality for a lot of us because a lot of this don't care for his personality but really did appreciate what he actually did and what he was trying to clean up

[Ken]

I think it was probably the difference of what Obama accomplished after elected vs Trump after he was elected that explains the enthusiasm. That's why its important these investigations don't stop until all is uncovered. I also believe the hatred spewed at President Trump only encouraged .more support as he was actually following through with ca.paign promises that got him elected- it wasn't personality for a lot of us because a lot of this don't care for his personality but really did appreciate what he actually did and what he was trying to clean up

What do you think Trump actually accomplished other than tax cuts for the wealthy and nominating 3 Supreme Court justices, which was largely just circumstance?

HIs only other major legislative effort was the repeal of the Affordable Care Act and that failed in a congress controlled by Republicans.

He did famously impose an enormous number of tariffs. What did those accomplish other than raise prices for Americans who are the ones who actually pay them?

I'm honestly curious what you would consider to be his list of accomplishments. And, for that matter what you think his agenda and platform would be for another term in 2024.

[RZehr]

Is….is Trump duck hunting in a tie? On the flooded front lawn of the Capitol? Those look like 12 gauge pump shotguns. Must have just finished setting out the dekes and are headed for the blind.

[Ken]

Is….is Trump duck hunting in a tie? On the flooded front lawn of the Capitol? Those look like 12 gauge pump shotguns. Must have just finished setting out the deeks and are headed for the blind.

Maybe they are hunting gators since there are gators all about in that water.

I'm not particularly fluent in arcane Trumpology. We probably need one of the local Trumpers to completely translate the iconography pictured here. About all I do know is that the imagery was borrowed from this painting hanging in the Met.

[Valerie]

I think it was probably the difference of what Obama accomplished after elected vs Trump after he was elected that explains the enthusiasm. That's why its important these investigations don't stop until all is uncovered. I also believe the hatred spewed at President Trump only encouraged .more support as he was actually following through with ca.paign promises that got him elected- it wasn't personality for a lot of us because a lot of this don't care for his personality but really did appreciate what he actually did and what he was trying to clean up

What do you think Trump actually accomplished other than tax cuts for the wealthy and nominating 3 Supreme Court justices, which was largely just circumstance?

HIs only other major legislative effort was the repeal of the Affordable Care Act and that failed in a congress controlled by Republicans.

He did famously impose an enormous number of tariffs. What did those accomplish other than raise prices for Americans who are the ones who actually pay them?

I'm honestly curious what you would consider to be his list of accomplishments. And, for that matter what you think his agenda and platform would be for another term in 2024.

What are you paying for gasoline? Trump was right when he said we would all suffer at the pump if Biden became president.
Border control is out of control. Maybe you think open borders is good for America & good for those crossing, we happen to agree with his plan. Safer for all.
Exposing revisionist history. Appointing people we admired instead of a cabinet with Islam ties.

What would his platform be for 2024? Not sure- finish what he started.

Keep election investigations going. He is FOR voter identity and restoring faith in the election system, then he might actually believe results.

We are paying MORE because of tariffs?;Hmmm- raising the gas prices had nothing to do with items trucked raising prices? The customers where i work seem to understand that connection. Certainly it was not his "personality" that made him popular - although he is seen as a strong leader as opposed to Biden.
Ask the Amish why they had a parade for Trump, i guarantee you it was not because they love his personality

[Ken]

I think it was probably the difference of what Obama accomplished after elected vs Trump after he was elected that explains the enthusiasm. That's why its important these investigations don't stop until all is uncovered. I also believe the hatred spewed at President Trump only encouraged .more support as he was actually following through with ca.paign promises that got him elected- it wasn't personality for a lot of us because a lot of this don't care for his personality but really did appreciate what he actually did and what he was trying to clean up

What do you think Trump actually accomplished other than tax cuts for the wealthy and nominating 3 Supreme Court justices, which was largely just circumstance?

HIs only other major legislative effort was the repeal of the Affordable Care Act and that failed in a congress controlled by Republicans.

He did famously impose an enormous number of tariffs. What did those accomplish other than raise prices for Americans who are the ones who actually pay them?

I'm honestly curious what you would consider to be his list of accomplishments. And, for that matter what you think his agenda and platform would be for another term in 2024.

What are you paying for gasoline? Trump was right when he said we would all suffer at the pump if Biden became president.
Border control is out of control. Maybe you think open borders is good for America & good for those crossing, we happen to agree with his plan. Safer for all.
Exposing revisionist history. Appointing people we admired instead of a cabinet with Islam ties.

What would his platform be for 2024? Not sure- finish what he started.

Keep election investigations going. He is FOR voter identity and restoring faith in the election system, then he might actually believe results.

We are paying MORE because of tariffs?;Hmmm- raising the gas prices had nothing to do with items trucked raising prices? The customers where i work seem to understand that connection. Certainly it was not his "personality" that made him popular - although he is seen as a strong leader as opposed to Biden.
Ask the Amish why they had a parade for Trump, i guarantee you it was not because they love his personality

Gas prices have very little to do with Federal policy. Gas prices are global. They have also come down by at least $1/gallon around here in the past month or two.

Trump imposed tariffs on Canadian wood, aluminum, appliances, and lots of components that go into cars and houses and consumer goods. That, along with cheap money contributed to housing inflation and car inflation. Trump's tariffs were estimated to contribute $9,000 to the price of a new home. That is a lot of tanks of gas right there.

As for borders? We don't have open borders. More people are being captured and detained at the border under Biden than Trump. And deportations are continuing at more or less the same pace under Biden as they did under Trump. Congress needs to put more money into immigration courts if you want to speed that up. That is something that neither Republican nor Democratic congresses and administrations have done, Trump included. Immigration is a huge fiasco in this country but that is largely the fault of Congress and the political gridlock that seems to prevent any reform of the system. As long as companies keep hiring undocumented immigrants they will keep coming because Americans like their cheap labor.

This is Biden's Cabinet. https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/cabinet/ Which ones have "Islam ties" that you find problematic?

As far as I know, Trump and the Trump family have more "Islam ties" than anyone in the Biden Administration. Trump was a big apologist for Mohammed bin Salman and Jared Kushner took $2 BILLION from the Saudis after leaving office: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-hou ... 022-06-02/

[Robert]

What do you think Trump actually accomplished other than tax cuts for the wealthy and nominating 3 Supreme Court justices, which was largely just circumstance?

Abraham Accords was one of the most important things along with getting us out of Iraq and pulling down Afghanistan.

His admin also cut massive bureaucracy and red tape. This empowered small business and made it much easier for them to function.

He brought tension with North Korea down. He got other countries to pay their fair share of NATO. He got the economy bussing.

He did all this with two fake impeachment trials. I say fake, because as we look back, we find that the grounds for them were completely made up.

I heard from Glen Greenwald the other day that the reason why the Cheney's and the deep state hate him so much is he was dismantling the military industrial complex by getting us out of the forever wars we were in. Don't you remember how everyone hated Dick Cheney just a few years ago? Now they glorify Liz Cheney. Isn't something fishy about that? Those they demonized a few years ago become their favorites, when they need them? This sure looks like the end justifies the means. Something very counter to the teachings of Jesus.

Again, Id o not really like the persona of President Trump, but I did like a lot of the policies of that administration.

[Josh]

Trump’s biggest accomplishment was not starting any new wars.

Biden: war with Russia, tensions and possible war with China, Israel going to war with Gaza again… and it’s only been a year and a half.

I haven’t seen all those trump pictures Ken posted before. Ken, you seem really obsessed with Trump. A lot of left wing people are. It’s not healthy. Move on.

[Grace]

Trump’s biggest accomplishment was not starting any new wars.

Biden: war with Russia, tensions and possible war with China, Israel going to war with Gaza again… and it’s only been a year and a half.

I haven’t seen all those trump pictures Ken posted before. Ken, you seem really obsessed with Trump. A lot of left wing people are. It’s not healthy. Move on.

Yes, TDS is not healthy There is another person who has the same obsession, but that person will remain nameless.