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Judas Maccabeus

Re: Good things about the Trump presidency

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Ken wrote:One good thing about Trump. He always finds the best doctors:
A Houston doctor who praises hydroxychloroquine and says that face masks aren’t necessary to stop transmission of the highly contagious coronavirus has become a star on the right-wing internet, garnering tens of millions of views on Facebook on Monday alone. Donald Trump Jr. declared the video of Stella Immanuel a “must watch,” while Donald Trump himself retweeted the video.

Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams.

Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.
source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-im ... e?ref=home
Wow. That is, as we say here, "A piece of work."

Wherever do they find these people?

J.M.
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Judas Maccabeus

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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RZehr wrote:
Robert wrote:
Judas Maccabeus wrote: Hon, I

J.M,
Hon, I
Hon, I just want to say hon.
Hon, hon, hon, hon.
Come visit us, my friend! This is at "Honest" where Elvis haircuts and beehives on the gals are frequently spoted.

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It really is better when we are not in lockdown. You can get snowballs, and even Polack Johnnie's Unburger. Ice cream at the Charmary just has not been the same since Trickling Springs went under.

J.M.

Picture by By Iracaz at English Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... d=16357434

I don't have time to run over there tonight.
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Judas Maccabeus

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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Josh wrote:
Judas Maccabeus wrote:
Robert wrote:
Hon, I was born in the inner city of Baltimore and lived in several large cities and worked downtown. I live in my rural bubble now because I left that mess behind.

Your constant references to Nazis is ridiculous and I grow tired of it. I have lost a lot of respect for you because of it. I no longer an interested in hearing your opinions since they are so biased and distorted. I pray for those you care for. I hope they experience a better side than you show here. Goodbye.
Than you should know the opinions I express are the norm here, and not an outlier.

J.M.
No offence intended to people in Baltimore, but most the rest of the country doesn’t want to have Baltimore’s crime problem or crooked, corrupt government. There are reasons the cities ended up so depopulated - when it’s too violent and too corrupt to run profitable businesses, the city just dies. I’m sorry to say I see that happening right now including in my beloved New York City. Most retail there is not reopening, compared to say, Ohio, where retail and restaurants are figuring out how to stay in business despite this pandemic.
To understand why Baltimore and other eastern cities have fallen on hard times one needs to look water policy at a bit past the turn of the century. People WANTED to be in city limits, because it brought with it the benefits a city had to offer, mainly sewage and water systems. Property developers also wanted areas annexed, it was far more profitable to build at the higher density that central sewage and water allowed. Over the years, Baltimore, as well as several other eastern cities annexed more and more territory. Streetcars made this possible.

I will use Baltimore as an example. Soon, it ran out of sources of water within it's own boundaries, and needed to look into surrounding areas for water. To do that, it needed the ability to take property, and build infrastructure into surrounding land, that it did not govern, and hence had no authority to "take" the land. It had to make a deal to get the water, in the case of Baltimore, it meant agreeing to supply the county with filtered water from the cities system, at cost of maintaining the distribution system that the county required, in perpetuity. Bad move, now county residents had all the advantages of living in the city, and paid 1/4 as much for the water. I am across the line, and my bill is about 20% of what one of the single guys pay. The advantage of living under the city government is gone, and any annexation attempt is impossible, because it would take a referendum. In a similar manner, county residents can take advantage of city amenities and not pay taxes to support it. Hence, taxes in the city are DOUBLE what I pay.

Thus, the cities of the Northeast (Philadelphia has a similar situation, Boston less so) cannot expand, and the more affluent suburbs are separated from the city that gave them reason for existence. Up until just after the turn of the century, cities could and would annex land that was going to be effectively part of the city. Before 1918, Baltimore's northern boundary was North Avenue. There has been no annexation since, that is about 30-years after the "water deal" was made.

So, this explains at least some of it.

J.M.
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Judas Maccabeus

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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Ken wrote:
Josh wrote:If one counts distant suburbs as “cities”, sure. Cleveland and Detroit are significantly smaller than they used to be. New York City lost about 500,000 people this year.
Let's look at some actual data

https://carsey.unh.edu/publication/rural-depopulation
Depopulation occurs when an area experiences substantial population loss over a protracted period, resulting in significant population decline. How widespread is depopulation? In all, 746 counties representing 24 percent of all U.S. counties are depopulating, and nearly all of them—91 percent—are rural. Just 9 percent of urban counties are depopulating. Such depopulation is a clear indicator of a lack of demographic vitality in a significant part of rural America. Over one-third (35 percent) of all rural counties (676) are depopulating. Today, only 6.2 million residents remain in these depopulating rural counties, a third fewer than resided there in 1950.

The prevalence, timing, and magnitude of depopulation have unfolded unevenly across the geographic landscape of rural America. Depopulating rural counties are concentrated in the Great Plains and lie in a north-south band from the Dakotas through Nebraska, Kansas, and Oklahoma to central Texas. Clusters of depopulating rural counties are also evident in the northern Great Lakes, the interior of the Southeast, the Mississippi Delta, and the mining regions of West Virginia and Kentucky. In many cases, counties with less severe population losses are proximate to these depopulating counties, illuminating the spatial clustering of population loss in rural America. In contrast, most rural counties at peak populations are in the West, along the Atlantic or Pacific coasts, or proximate to metropolitan counties. There are exceptions to this general pattern, however, in high-amenity areas of the upper Great Lakes and Northern New England, as well as in the Ozarks and the Great Smoky Mountains.
What this all has to do with coronavirus, I'm not sure. But the hollowing out of rural America also has severe public heath consequences as rural hospitals continue to struggle and close. Especially in the southern states that have refused to expand Medicaid, and have therefore, intentionally choked off the largest potential income stream for their rural hospitals, driving them into bankruptcy and closure. Once a rural hospital closes it accelerates the economic decline in a community as many of the higher-paid and middle class professionals pack up and leave. Rural America is far less ready to deal with a long-term pandemic than it might have been, largely due to this population decline and subsequent collapse of the public health system.
Last time I looked, we were losing one rural hospital a week. When the hospital goes, the jobs go, it is frequently the towns largest employer. Than the infrastructure that was connected to the hospital, including every doctor that had hospital privileges. Soon the elderly leave, since they have to drive a great distance to the doctor. Finally, in case of emergency you likely will need an air ambulance and you better buy insurance, sometimes from 3 or more companies, since they are unregulated and do not co-operate.

In short, the death of a small town.

J.M.
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ken_sylvania

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

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RZehr wrote:
ken_sylvania wrote:
Dan Z wrote:For what it's worth, I find more rationality and less drama here than on Facebook...which has turned into a fever swamp of crazy these days.
Considering what this place is like - I'm glad I'm not on Facebook. Can't imagine what it must be like if it's worse than here.
I’ve been under the impression that Facebook is mostly people talking and no one listening.
Kind of like the congressional "hearing" today.
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Judas Maccabeus

Re: briar patch

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Josh wrote:Rural America is doing fine. The worst coronavirus death rate was in NYC.

Why did 500,000 NYCers flee the city and go to places like Florida?
Get away from COVID-19.

Unfortunately, it appears they brought it with them, as my brothers entire family now can testify.

J.M.
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Re: Anabaptist Disciples of Christ

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Fidelio wrote:
Ernie wrote:
steve-in-kville wrote: http://anabaptistdisciplesofchrist.org/
Scroll down to see list of congregations.
Wow, Interesting. I attended Bethel Fellowship, Berlin OH, last August on my vacation. The don't do separate seating of men and women.
That has led to many distractions from the Gospel, and even "other voice(s)" , in other situations, scenarios, groups.

When "follow Jesus" is accomplished, oh what a difference it makes ....
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RZehr

Re: Anabaptist Disciples of Christ

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Aaron this sounds like you are saying following Jesus either means that men and women sit separate in church, or not going on vacation, or something specific about Bethel.
Am I understanding your thought right? Could you clarify?
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Aaron
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Re: Anabaptist Disciples of Christ

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RZehr wrote:Aaron this sounds like you are saying following Jesus either means that men and women sit separate in church, or not going on vacation, or something specific about Bethel.
Am I understanding your thought right? Could you clarify?
(thinking) ... ... .... (and to be possibly hashed out peaceably) ... ... ... (I thought of 'vacation' AFTER I posted , btw.....

And after reading your reply, thinking , "what IS a distraction ? " - what does 'take away' / distract from , as written in God's Word ? (marriage comes to mind, somewhere, but is not forbidden - just thinking how someone can be devoted to God all the time more , if God grants it, when single than when married ) ..... so
"in God's View" (and historically), what does/did/ will cause distractions ?
(I don't know about Bethel)
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Josh

Re: Anabaptist Disciples of Christ

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I know GPT-3 just came out, but did someone go and hook it up to a MennoNet account?
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