CAM Molestation Issue

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Josh wrote:FB?
I assume FB means Facebook. That's the only thing I've seen abbreviated as FB anyway.
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Aurien wrote:
Josh wrote:FB?
I assume FB means Facebook. That's the only thing I've seen abbreviated as FB anyway.
Yes sorry. I am referring to Face Book. See how easy it would be to get false rumours started. And BTW I am not accusing anyone on here of deliberately spreading false rumours. But the fact is if it is third or fourth party hearsay or in my opinion what is even worse implying things without actually naming names and definite deeds, it really has the potential of doing the very opposite of what I think most people want which is for deeds to be exposed to light.
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Aurien wrote:
Josh wrote:FB?
I assume FB means Facebook. That's the only thing I've seen abbreviated as FB anyway.
On this forum, it can refer to Faith Builders. (one i’ve noticed.)
https://www.fbep.org/
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temporal1 wrote:
Aurien wrote:
Josh wrote:FB?
I assume FB means Facebook. That's the only thing I've seen abbreviated as FB anyway.
On this forum, it can refer to Faith Builders. (one i’ve noticed.)
https://www.fbep.org/
I thought of that later after I'd posted my reply. Faith Builders didn't make sense though in the context of his sentence so I stuck with Facebook. Outside of Conservative Anabaptists I've never seen anyone use FB to refer to anything other than Facebook.

Maybe we need a thread for acronyms on here. Or does one exist already?
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Aurien wrote:Maybe we need a thread for acronyms on here. Or does one exist already?
LMGTFY.
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Copied from 'Aurien' in the 'Christian Aid Scandal' forum.....fitting for this forum as well:

"I think it's worth reading the comments that Kris Kramer left on Trudy's February 7th blog post."

https://splash4ripples.com/2020/02/07/p ... Ma4nZSWlpk
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Dan Z wrote:Pushing back just a bit - this discussion about the "What to do about Trudy" meeting sounds gossipy to me (a concern I've shared before) - and the responses even more-so. We're going after not only the alleged perpetrator here, but now those associated with him as well - including his pastors. To be honest, it feels like there is a mob mentality brewing here in the background, fueled I'm sure by a visceral response to some very disturbing information. I understand why it is happening - this has been disturbing and gut-wrenching to me as well.

But how do we know it wasn't a "How do we respond to Trudy" meeting - the two phrases are remarkably similar, but the meaning is totally different. Was what was reported to Trudy about a private meeting reported correctly and in the right tone? I doubt that any of the three men in the meeting reported it to her, so this juicy information was likely reported by a third party with their own assumptions about what took place. Could the meeting have been misunderstood or perceived in light of some of the emotions we're seeing in this thread? Couldn't it be that this is a pastoral meeting with a broken man in response to Trudy's exposure of the situation, maybe even one that represents the beginning of confession, repentance and healing? I pray that it is heading in a healing direction - I don't know one way or the other - but it feels like we have prejudged what is going on here. Time will bring it to light.

Especially those of us who are committed to nonresistance, and love for enemy, I suggest we take a deep breath when we hear things like this, and keep our emotions and anger in check. These are painful and weighty matters indeed, and love and light must prevail. So let's guard out hearts, and let's work toward the things that can begin to heal and redeem tragic situations like this - honoring and caring for victims, making changes that protect against future victims, bringing wrong to light, and most importantly praying for repentance, forgiveness, restoration for all involved.
And it now, according to comments on Trudy's blog, it appears that the purpose of this meeting was in fact to discuss Harold Herr, not Trudy, although apparently Trudy did come up as a topic of discussion during the meeting.
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Aurien wrote:
temporal1 wrote:
Aurien wrote: I assume FB means Facebook. That's the only thing I've seen abbreviated as FB anyway.
On this forum, it can refer to Faith Builders. (one i’ve noticed.)
https://www.fbep.org/
I thought of that later after I'd posted my reply. Faith Builders didn't make sense though in the context of his sentence so I stuck with Facebook. Outside of Conservative Anabaptists I've never seen anyone use FB to refer to anything other than Facebook.

:arrow: Maybe we need a thread for acronyms on here. Or does one exist already?
Have you noticed this one?

”Anabaptist Acronyms” / Announcements and Introductions
http://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php ... t=acronyms
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Robert:
We had a thread for this before. Seems we need to recreate it.
Carry on my wayword sons.
i’m not sure of what Robert was remembering .. MD had a thread or two. i’m not sure. :?
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temporal1 wrote:
Aurien wrote:
temporal1 wrote: On this forum, it can refer to Faith Builders. (one i’ve noticed.)
https://www.fbep.org/
I thought of that later after I'd posted my reply. Faith Builders didn't make sense though in the context of his sentence so I stuck with Facebook. Outside of Conservative Anabaptists I've never seen anyone use FB to refer to anything other than Facebook.

:arrow: Maybe we need a thread for acronyms on here. Or does one exist already?
Have you noticed this one?

”Anabaptist Acronyms” / Announcements and Introductions
http://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php ... t=acronyms
Page 1
Robert:
We had a thread for this before. Seems we need to recreate it.
Carry on my wayword sons.
i’m not sure of what Robert was remembering .. MD had a thread or two. i’m not sure. :?
Yes that was pointed out to me by ohio jones. I notice that it has a lot of Anabaptist specific acronyms though and not very many general ones.
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No half-heartedness and no worldly fear must turn us aside from following the light unflinchingly. --J.R.R. Tolkien

When you can't run, you crawl, and when you can't crawl - when you can't do that...you find someone to carry you. --Firefly
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