Meanwhile, in Canada

When it just doesn't fit anywhere else.
MaxPC

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ohio jones wrote:Image
:hi5 :rofl: :laugh :lol: :up: :dance:

Droll; very droll. Way to roll, OJ!

Have you figured out the cartoon in “I think it’s funny” thread? I thought you would be the first to solve it. :lol:
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ohio jones

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MaxPC wrote:Have you figured out the cartoon in “I think it’s funny” thread? I thought you would be the first to solve it. :lol:
That one's actually not funny. There's no punch line.
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temporal1

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ohio jones wrote:
MaxPC wrote:Have you figured out the cartoon in “I think it’s funny” thread? I thought you would be the first to solve it. :lol:
That one's actually not funny. There's no punch line.
That one may not be funny, but this one is excruciating.
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JimFoxvog

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MaxPC wrote: Have you figured out the cartoon in “I think it’s funny” thread? I thought you would be the first to solve it. :lol:
My "heart" on the cartoon was my indication I solved it but didn't want to give it away.
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temporal1

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Nov 7, 2019
“Alberta votes to move controversial conscience rights bill forward — here’s what that means”
https://www.thestar.com/edmonton/2019/1 ... -vote.html
.. Existing ethics codes for physicians and pharmacists in Alberta already acknowledge the conscience rights of health care workers,
but also require doctors to refer their patients to another provider if they choose to refuse them care for personal or moral reasons.
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temporal1

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Sunset / “O, Canada! We May Not Be Traveling North of the Border Any Time Soon”
https://www.sunset.com/travel/canada-border-closure

Image “We might not be able to visit places like Banff National Park any time soon.”
Plans to travel to see the wonders of the True North were due an avalanche of celebration on June 21, when the U.S.-Canada border was scheduled to open, but a recent conversation between U.S. President Joe Biden and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is casting an ominous shadow on that possibility.

Ever since the March 2020 ban on non-essential travel was instituted in accordance with other pandemic-related shutdowns, Americans have been restricted from leisure travel north of the border. That ban has since been updated on a month-to-month basis, testing the patience of Canadian businesses that rely heavily on tourism.

So, what’s the hold up?

While America continues its return to normality amid a continuous surge in vaccine distribution, the picture has looked vastly different for Canadians.

Current numbers, according to vaccination data from Johns Hopkins University, show that just over 44 percent of U.S. citizens, or nearly 145 million people, have been fully vaccinated. These data are vastly disproportionate compared to the approximately 12 percent of fully vaccinated Canadians, a number that falls well below the 75 percent rate Trudeau previously set as a criteria to open the border.

Still, there are some signs of hope, as Canada recently announced an imminent relaxation of quarantine requirements for Canadians returning home from international travel. Restrictions have also been loosened for National Hockey League playoff series involving teams from both countries.

But with uncertainty abounding and the June 21 deadline only a week away, all signs are pointing toward travel delays lasting well into the summer. .. ..
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Ken
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Those numbers are way out of date. Canada now leads the world in vaccination rates and has a lower infection rate than either the US or UK. These are the vaccination rates as of today (June 18, 2021)

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And these are the Covid infection rates as of today. They are climbing again in the UK as a result of the spread of the more contagious and deadly "Delta" variant. Which should be worrisome for the US as the UK vaccination rate is higher than ours.

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ohio jones

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Ken wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:55 pm Those numbers are way out of date. Canada now leads the world in vaccination rates and has a lower infection rate than either the US or UK. These are the vaccination rates as of today (June 18, 2021)
The chart says "at least one dose" -- and therein lies the difference from the "12% fully vaccinated" data in temp's quote. From a Canadian friend two weeks ago:
Well I did it. Got the jab yesterday.
[snip]
Now if only I did not have to wait 4 months till the next one. That part is still a boondoggle.
It's quite possible his next dose will be available somewhat sooner, but that's all they are promising at this point. Not at all like the two week interval that can be relied on around here.
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mike

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ohio jones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:14 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:55 pm Those numbers are way out of date. Canada now leads the world in vaccination rates and has a lower infection rate than either the US or UK. These are the vaccination rates as of today (June 18, 2021)
The chart says "at least one dose" -- and therein lies the difference from the "12% fully vaccinated" data in temp's quote. From a Canadian friend two weeks ago:
Well I did it. Got the jab yesterday.
[snip]
Now if only I did not have to wait 4 months till the next one. That part is still a boondoggle.
It's quite possible his next dose will be available somewhat sooner, but that's all they are promising at this point. Not at all like the two week interval that can be relied on around here.
They're taking walk ins for vaccinations now. I suspect that the biggest factor in the vaccination rates now is that a lot of people don't really plan to get vaccinated.
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Ken
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ohio jones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:14 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:55 pm Those numbers are way out of date. Canada now leads the world in vaccination rates and has a lower infection rate than either the US or UK. These are the vaccination rates as of today (June 18, 2021)
The chart says "at least one dose" -- and therein lies the difference from the "12% fully vaccinated" data in temp's quote. From a Canadian friend two weeks ago:
Well I did it. Got the jab yesterday.
[snip]
Now if only I did not have to wait 4 months till the next one. That part is still a boondoggle.
It's quite possible his next dose will be available somewhat sooner, but that's all they are promising at this point. Not at all like the two week interval that can be relied on around here.
Canada is mostly using the Pfizer and Moderna just like the US, but they are also using a lot of the AstraZeneca which is a 1-shot vaccine that isn't being used in the US. So it probably isn't an apples to apples comparison. And besides, 1-shot of either Pfizer or Moderna is supposed to confer substantial immunity on its own which is why Canada is taking the strategy. And that approach seems to be validated by their more rapidly falling infection rate. The question about whether the US approach of prioritizing second vaccines, or the Canada approach of prioritizing first vaccines is something that I expect public health experts to study intently. But I also expect it will quickly be a moot point in both countries when supply eclipses demand as it already has in the US.

But you are right. The percentage of population that is fully vaccinated looks like this:

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