CAM Molestation Issue

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Judas Maccabeus

Re: CAM Molestation Issue

Post by Judas Maccabeus »

Ernie wrote:
ragpicker wrote:
Ernie wrote:A statement from CAM is coming.
Can you give us any idea when?
Soon. CAM wanted it out yesterday. But because of the FBI's involvement, it got delayed.

FYI, I'm not involved in this situation or helping to produce the statement.
I hope and pray that they are not getting “lawyered up.” The lawyers will tell them to do exactly the opposite of what a follower of Jesus should do. Been there in a church situation, prior to joining the Mennonite church. lawyer told us “see that building on your letterhead, if you offer the apology you are proposing, the “victim “ will soon own it.”

Maybe that would have been better. The lawyer will think first of institutional survival. The follower of Jesus has other overriding considerations.

J.M.
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Ernie

Re: CAM Molestation Issue

Post by Ernie »

This situation is awful. I felt "sick" and grieved all day yesterday. So much damage to the Kingdom of God when there are wolves in sheep's clothing.

People were asking to pray for the victim. One MN member messaged me to say he is praying for CAM. All of this is good.
I'm just reminding us to pray for the perpetrator and his family also.

The Great Physician is needed in all these places.
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Josh

Re: CAM Molestation Issue

Post by Josh »

Ernie wrote:This situation is awful. I felt "sick" and grieved all day yesterday. So much damage to the Kingdom of God when there are wolves in sheep's clothing.

People were asking to pray for the victim. One MN member messaged me to say he is praying for CAM. All of this is good.
I'm just reminding us to pray for the perpetrator and his family also.

The Great Physician is needed in all these places.
Correction: there is not one “victim”, but there are many victims.
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ragpicker

Re: CAM Molestation Issue

Post by ragpicker »

Judas Maccabeus wrote:I hope and pray that they are not getting “lawyered up.”
I disagree. I strongly recommend a lawyer. Just be sure the lawyer understands your commitment to "do the right thing" regardless of cost, and is willing to honor that. Within that context, a lawyer can prevent a lot of unnecessary "making the situation worse".
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Josh

Re: CAM Molestation Issue

Post by Josh »

CAM already engaged legal counsel several weeks ago, to my knowledge.

I would expect CAM and its legal counsel from this point on to do whatever it takes to keep their officials out of prison.
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QuietObserver

Re: CAM Molestation Issue

Post by QuietObserver »

ragpicker wrote:
Judas Maccabeus wrote:I hope and pray that they are not getting “lawyered up.”
I disagree. I strongly recommend a lawyer. Just be sure the lawyer understands your commitment to "do the right thing" regardless of cost, and is willing to honor that. Within that context, a lawyer can prevent a lot of unnecessary "making the situation worse".
Engaging a lawyer doesn’t mean you have to take their advice. They are working for you.
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steve-in-kville

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Post by steve-in-kville »

QuietObserver wrote:Engaging a lawyer doesn’t mean you have to take their advice. They are working for you.
At this point its just damage control. Its beyond fixing.
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Judas Maccabeus

Re: CAM Molestation Issue

Post by Judas Maccabeus »

ragpicker wrote:
Judas Maccabeus wrote:I hope and pray that they are not getting “lawyered up.”
I disagree. I strongly recommend a lawyer. Just be sure the lawyer understands your commitment to "do the right thing" regardless of cost, and is willing to honor that. Within that context, a lawyer can prevent a lot of unnecessary "making the situation worse".
Finding a lawyer to do that will be nearly impossible. Doing what we consider to be right would be legal malpractice. And once the lawyer is in the room, there will be a tendency to defer to his advice.

J.M.
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ragpicker

Re: CAM Molestation Issue

Post by ragpicker »

Judas Maccabeus wrote:
Finding a lawyer to do that will be nearly impossible. Doing what we consider to be right would be legal malpractice. And once the lawyer is in the room, there will be a tendency to defer to his advice.

J.M.
Why would a lawyer doing what he was hired to advise you and help you navigate the legal process, be considered legal malpractice?
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Neto

Re: CAM Molestation Issue

Post by Neto »

While I am very much moved on behalf of victims in cases like this, I didn't appreciate the tone of the "blog post". I am not defending CAM - I have had disagreements with their policies in the past, and I have heard from former staff about other issues. But let's not do a "Smollett" knee-jerk reaction.
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