Global Warning/Climate Change

[JimFoxvog]

i wish it were not so.
example, ....
the Parkland murderer, Nik Cruz, should have been dealt with years before he murdered, policies demanded his problems could not be addressed.

But here I expect most liberals agree with you. He should not have been allowed near a gun.

the general public is muffled from hard facts, for the purpose of PC efforts.

Like not allowing the CDC to study gun violence? Let's support the reporting of hard facts, and doing the studies needed to learn them. But why put in code phrases like "PC".

when i visit Seattle, i am sickened by wondering about Hepatitus and other diseases, silenced.
CA declared a state of emergency over Hepatitus. guess what? lots of CA in WA.
needles and feces on the streets. gov offices and businesses hose-down entryways to allow people to come and go.

Yes, these are serious problems that should be addressed. We need to work against homelessness and addiction. Free housing for those in need and free drug treatment programs would help a lot, save more money than they cost, and be the compassionate thing to do.

do they really expect us to believe there are no problems because they are not reported?
it adds insult to injury.
serious problems exist. to lie+pretend+enable is beyond the beyond.

the first step in fixing a problem is to admit there is a problem.

I think cities try to hide problems to help attract businesses and tourists. Homeless people get run out of city centers. We agree that there are serious problems and this needs to be admitted.

[Josh]

Removing guns won’t fix anything.

In Europe this kind of senseless atrack is carried out with knives, bombs, or driving trucks into crowded areas with pedestrians.

And none of it is because of Trump.

[JimFoxvog]

Removing guns won’t fix anything.

I understood it greatly reduced mass murders in Australia. Am I wrong?

In Europe this kind of senseless attack is carried out with knives, bombs, or driving trucks into crowded areas with pedestrians.

You are right. Mass murders may be harder, but evil people will still commit them. Just as some people should not be allowed guns, some should not be allowed to drive. Bomb making supplies should be tracked and when they go to someone who proclaims hate and violence that person needs to be watched.

And none of it is because of Trump.

There are a number of ideologies that encourage violence. Trump proclaims one, Al-Qaeda another. I think they all say "our group is better than your group so we have a duty to hurt your group." As Christians, we need to reject all of these ideologies.

We need to proclaim the gospel of peace. Are there other steps you see, Josh, that will help deal with the problems of violence or pollution?

[Josh]

I understood it greatly reduced mass murders in Australia. Am I wrong?

Australia now has more murder than it did before guns were outlawed, including lots of no-go areas and gang type of murder violence. I don’t consider that an improvement.

Ultimately, man can not overcome his desire to murder without Christ, and all attempts to do so will fail. The state had a role in maintaining a monopoly on force (with lawful self defence being part of that monopoly), but the only true path to peace is following the Prince of Peace.

Expect the violence and mayhem in the world to get worse as the world continues to follow the prince of this world, who comes to kill, rob, and destroy.

[Josh]

Bomb making supplies should be tracked and when they go to someone who proclaims hate and violence that person needs to be watched.

The loss of liberty to have a police state that tracks “bomb making supplies” would itself be a serious problem. I don’t think any of us want to live in a police state.

Likewise, someone proclaiming politically incorrect opinions does not need to be “watched”. According to the left, opposing gay marriage is proclaiming “hate and violence”.

I don’t think myself and Bootstrap need to be on a government watchlist. Do you?

[JimFoxvog]

Likewise, someone proclaiming politically incorrect opinions does not need to be “watched”. According to the left, opposing gay marriage is proclaiming “hate and violence”.

I think "violence" would need to be carefully defined. Someone who has declared they will bomb a Trump rally or an abortion facility and has collected the materials to do so should be watched in my opinion. Not someone who calls abortion providers or policemen murderers or calls Soros or Trump the antichrist. When they call for direct physical violence, watch out. Some of these people on the left and right mean it.

[JimFoxvog]

Australia now has more murder than it did before guns were outlawed, including lots of no-go areas and gang type of murder violence. I don’t consider that an improvement.

Where's the data on that? This is what I find:

In 2009, we wrote an Ask FactCheck item for readers who wanted to know, “Did gun control in Australia lead to more murders there last year?” The answer at the time was “no,” and that’s still the case.https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/gun-c ... a-updated/

Ultimately, man can not overcome his desire to murder without Christ, and all attempts to do so will fail. The state had a role in maintaining a monopoly on force (with lawful self defence being part of that monopoly), but the only true path to peace is following the Prince of Peace.

Expect the violence and mayhem in the world to get worse as the world continues to follow the prince of this world, who comes to kill, rob, and destroy.

I agree there will not be true peace until the return of the Prince of Peace. I understand studies show violence has lessened over the last few millennia, but with the global disruption due to overpopulation and global warming, I also expect things to get worse until the Day of the Lord.

[Josh]

Gun violence in Australia from the 1980s to present day is significantly worse. Criminal gangs seem to have unlimited access to guns, and the common people have no ability to defend themselves.

Seems pretty unjust to me.

[Sunbeam]

Why is this thread on page 90?

[temporal1]

Why is this thread on page 90?

My theory is, when Robert starts threads, he expects them to last.


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