Charlie Kirk Encounters NT Focused Student

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Nomad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:26 pmI just think using the argument that the OT writers were misunderstood is a flawed argument and probably won't be very convincing to a lot of Christians.
I'm not sure who is making that argument.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:07 amMennonites like confirmation bias, or at least the ones who intersect with the personality trait of “I am a good person because I hold the right opinions” do. So this particular type of person likes hearing people reaffirm how right they are.
I think there are such folks. Are there also Church of God in Christ Mennonite folks who have confirmation bias, and who intersect with the personality trait of “I am a good person because I hold the right opinions” do, and like hearing people reaffirm how right they are?
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Nomad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:26 pm... I just think using the argument that the OT writers were misunderstood is a flawed argument and probably won't be very convincing to a lot of Christians.
I see the relationship between covenants as a sort of progressive revelation. The covenant with Noah was not the same as the covenant with Adam and so with Moses and David. But as Hebrews instructs us, I prize the revelation through Jesus above all.
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Ernie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:21 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:07 amMennonites like confirmation bias, or at least the ones who intersect with the personality trait of “I am a good person because I hold the right opinions” do. So this particular type of person likes hearing people reaffirm how right they are.
I think there are such folks. Are there also Church of God in Christ Mennonite folks who have confirmation bias, and who intersect with the personality trait of “I am a good person because I hold the right opinions” do, and like hearing people reaffirm how right they are?
I’m sure there are.

One of the qualities I appreciate in plain people is humility and a lack of an identity of feeling good about one’s self for having the right opinions. As plain people absorb evangelical doctrine and worldly modernism, though, they tend to start to display this type of thinking. “Thank goodness I have the right opinions, unlike my uneducated / sinful / bigoted neighbour.”
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JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 12:14 am
Ernie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:21 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:07 amMennonites like confirmation bias, or at least the ones who intersect with the personality trait of “I am a good person because I hold the right opinions” do. So this particular type of person likes hearing people reaffirm how right they are.
I think there are such folks. Are there also Church of God in Christ Mennonite folks who have confirmation bias, and who intersect with the personality trait of “I am a good person because I hold the right opinions” do, and like hearing people reaffirm how right they are?
I’m sure there are.

One of the qualities I appreciate in plain people is humility and a lack of an identity of feeling good about one’s self for having the right opinions. As plain people absorb evangelical doctrine and worldly modernism, though, they tend to start to display this type of thinking. “Thank goodness I have the right opinions, unlike my uneducated / sinful / bigoted neighbour.”
Sort of like feeling good about one's self for having the right opinion about plain people and the way they think?
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I’m proud I’m not prideful, I’m full of humility and always have the right focus.
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Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 6:44 am I’m proud I’m not prideful, I’m full of humility and always have the right focus.
Yes, me too, and I also have exercised proper judgement and individual initiative to choose the exactly correct church to fellowship with.
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barnhart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 7:41 am
Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 6:44 am I’m proud I’m not prideful, I’m full of humility and always have the right focus.
Yes, me too, and I also have exercised proper judgement and individual initiative to choose the exactly correct church to fellowship with.
I thank God that I am not like other men are. —extortioners, unjust, adulterers—or even like these Mennonites who are off track.
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Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 10:16 am
barnhart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 7:41 am
Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 6:44 am I’m proud I’m not prideful, I’m full of humility and always have the right focus.
Yes, me too, and I also have exercised proper judgement and individual initiative to choose the exactly correct church to fellowship with.
I thank God that I am not like other men are. —extortioners, unjust, adulterers—or even like these Mennonites who are off track.
Ahhh yes...
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GaryK wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 5:54 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 12:14 am
Ernie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:21 pm
I think there are such folks. Are there also Church of God in Christ Mennonite folks who have confirmation bias, and who intersect with the personality trait of “I am a good person because I hold the right opinions” do, and like hearing people reaffirm how right they are?
I’m sure there are.

One of the qualities I appreciate in plain people is humility and a lack of an identity of feeling good about one’s self for having the right opinions. As plain people absorb evangelical doctrine and worldly modernism, though, they tend to start to display this type of thinking. “Thank goodness I have the right opinions, unlike my uneducated / sinful / bigoted neighbour.”
Sort of like feeling good about one's self for having the right opinion about plain people and the way they think?
I’m simply making observations, not proclaiming my moral superiority to others. I would, in fact, generally not consider myself more moral, ethical, righteous, godly, etc. than the average Christian I meet.

It is a very real problem when a Christian sect devolves into finding justification simply in having the right beliefs.
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