Sorry, but Trudy is the last person I can think of who would do such a thing in an improper way. I have found her to be of the highest integrity.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 2:30 pm Only speculating that BMA leadership leveraged a relationship to keep it silent this long. I would further speculate that both parties are not above it...
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Show us the receipts then.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 2:30 pmOnly speculating that BMA leadership leveraged a relationship to keep it silent this long. I would further speculate that both parties are not above it...JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 1:27 pmWhich doesn't mean it's necessarily credible or otherwise ready for release.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 1:22 pm I have a friend who has first-hand access to a very large report, close to 100 pages long. It's directly related to the orphanage in Mexico, including victim testimonies, statements.
Attacking Trudy's credibility on this is certainly a new front, but I suppose eventually a faction will develop that complaints Trudy doesn't go after things hard enough. Truly amazing to behold, though.She's talking to BMA leaders. Nothing on Mexico. Meanwhile, the accolades pour in for BMA on her page and she says nothing. Something doesn't add up.
Currency goes far beyond $$$.
That kind of speculation says more about you than it does about anyone else - and it's not saying anything good about you.
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It does indicate a high level of distrust at this point. I am speculating that BMA asked Trudy to stand down on the story. BMAs actions towards whistleblowers would lend itself well to that theory. And that is "not saying anything good about" BMA.ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 2:56 pmShow us the receipts then.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 2:30 pmOnly speculating that BMA leadership leveraged a relationship to keep it silent this long. I would further speculate that both parties are not above it...JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 1:27 pm
Which doesn't mean it's necessarily credible or otherwise ready for release.
Attacking Trudy's credibility on this is certainly a new front, but I suppose eventually a faction will develop that complaints Trudy doesn't go after things hard enough. Truly amazing to behold, though.
That kind of speculation says more about you than it does about anyone else - and it's not saying anything good about you.
Let's not go ad hominem on this.
Speculation does not come with receipts. Those come later.
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There’s a difference between her giving them time to try to fix the problem and her getting paid off.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 3:25 pmIt does indicate a high level of distrust at this point. I am speculating that BMA asked Trudy to stand down on the story. BMAs actions towards whistleblowers would lend itself well to that theory. And that is "not saying anything good about" BMA.ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 2:56 pmShow us the receipts then.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 2:30 pm
Only speculating that BMA leadership leveraged a relationship to keep it silent this long. I would further speculate that both parties are not above it...
That kind of speculation says more about you than it does about anyone else - and it's not saying anything good about you.
Let's not go ad hominem on this.
Speculation does not come with receipts. Those come later.
Accusing her of the second is not very charitable especially if you don’t have any supporting evidence for that.
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Trudy rarely says anything positive towards the conservative Anabaptist community, especially men. Occasionally she will, but not very often.She's talking to BMA leaders. Nothing on Mexico. Meanwhile, the accolades pour in for BMA on her page and she says nothing. Something doesn't add up.
Some of Trudy's tactics are tawdry, however, there is no chance she was paid off by anyone.
Just a word of caution, don't say anything negative about Trudy here, as in some people's eyes, she is sacrosanct and venerated.
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To be clear, would I never expect $$$ to be transacted by either party. And most definitely not by Trudy. I was speaking metaphorically and should have indicated that in the original post and did not intend it to be taken that way.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 6:47 am I may be off in left field here but I have a question that will not go away. It’s been three weeks since Trudy references 100 pages of evidence and conversations with multiple BMA leaders. She also referenced the Mexico orphanage situation, yet only silence.
Did someone in BMA cut a deal with Trudy and buy her silence?
As I stated before, I entirely believe it could be possible that BMA asked for silence on it. And I could very well be wrong.
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Why don't you go ahead and share this treasure trove of documents you have, since you're complaining that Trudy isn't sharing what she has?GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 5:05 pmTo be clear, would I never expect $$$ to be transacted by either party. And most definitely not by Trudy. I was speaking metaphorically and should have indicated that in the original post and did not intend it to be taken that way.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 6:47 am I may be off in left field here but I have a question that will not go away. It’s been three weeks since Trudy references 100 pages of evidence and conversations with multiple BMA leaders. She also referenced the Mexico orphanage situation, yet only silence.
Did someone in BMA cut a deal with Trudy and buy her silence?
As I stated before, I entirely believe it could be possible that BMA asked for silence on it. And I could very well be wrong.
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I for one, am thankful for the exposure that Trudy has brought about in Anabaptist culture. I have concerns that she’s being manipulated. If this is happening , my criticism is not on her, but on BMA.Grace wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 4:14 pmTrudy rarely says anything positive towards the conservative Anabaptist community, especially men. Occasionally she will, but not very often.She's talking to BMA leaders. Nothing on Mexico. Meanwhile, the accolades pour in for BMA on her page and she says nothing. Something doesn't add up.
Some of Trudy's tactics are tawdry, however, there is no chance she was paid off by anyone.
Just a word of caution, don't say anything negative about Trudy here, as in some people's eyes, she is sacrosanct and venerated.
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Trudy doesn't move at lightning speed. Never has. I am not concerned at all.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 6:08 pm I for one, am thankful for the exposure that Trudy has brought about in Anabaptist culture. I have concerns that she’s being manipulated. If this is happening , my criticism is not on her, but on BMA.
She moves when she knows she's got a rock-solid position.
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Well I am thankful youre not concerned.JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 7:01 pmTrudy doesn't move at lightning speed. Never has. I am not concerned at all.GelassenheitBnksi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 6:08 pm I for one, am thankful for the exposure that Trudy has brought about in Anabaptist culture. I have concerns that she’s being manipulated. If this is happening , my criticism is not on her, but on BMA.
She moves when she knows she's got a rock-solid position.
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