La Gloria and Haran

[Disciple of Christ]

What is the background of the following colonies in Bolivia: La Gloria and Haran? What are their mother colonies? Are they Old Colony (Altkolonier) Mennonites? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!

[lmcdoss]

What is the background of the following colonies in Bolivia: La Gloria and Haran? What are their mother colonies? Are they Old Colony (Altkolonier) Mennonites? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!

La Gloria is evangelical.
Haran's mother colony is Gruenwald that is in fellowship with Lower Barton Creek, the most conservative anabaptist group in the world. All the residents of Haran and Gruenwald are of old colony origin.

[JohnH]

What is the background of the following colonies in Bolivia: La Gloria and Haran? What are their mother colonies? Are they Old Colony (Altkolonier) Mennonites? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!

La Gloria is evangelical.
Haran's mother colony is Gruenwald that is in fellowship with Lower Barton Creek, the most conservative anabaptist group in the world. All the residents of Haran and Gruenwald are of old colony origin.

I have heard rumblings that things are changing in Lower Barton Creek; some other group has come in and influenced them and persuaded them to get rebaptised in order to be more "spiritual" which (as always) comes along with more worldly practices.

[lmcdoss]

What is the background of the following colonies in Bolivia: La Gloria and Haran? What are their mother colonies? Are they Old Colony (Altkolonier) Mennonites? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!

La Gloria is evangelical.
Haran's mother colony is Gruenwald that is in fellowship with Lower Barton Creek, the most conservative anabaptist group in the world. All the residents of Haran and Gruenwald are of old colony origin.

I have heard rumblings that things are changing in Lower Barton Creek; some other group has come in and influenced them and persuaded them to get rebaptised in order to be more "spiritual" which (as always) comes along with more worldly practices.

You probably mean Upper Barton Creek that was noah hoover mennonites. They started leaving in 2017 for Birdwalk and roseville because of tourism. Some old order mennonites from Canada moved in, but the colony is pretty much empty.

Only other Low German mennonites would be able to influence the Lower Barton Creek on those matter because of language. They do not learn english in their schools( so they only learn the basic after school for trade) even though Belize's official language is english.

[lmcdoss]

What is the background of the following colonies in Bolivia: La Gloria and Haran? What are their mother colonies? Are they Old Colony (Altkolonier) Mennonites? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!

La Gloria is evangelical.
Haran's mother colony is Gruenwald that is in fellowship with Lower Barton Creek, the most conservative anabaptist group in the world. All the residents of Haran and Gruenwald are of old colony origin.

I have heard rumblings that things are changing in Lower Barton Creek; some other group has come in and influenced them and persuaded them to get rebaptised in order to be more "spiritual" which (as always) comes along with more worldly practices.

Just out of curiosity where have you heard that?

[JohnH]

La Gloria is evangelical.
Haran's mother colony is Gruenwald that is in fellowship with Lower Barton Creek, the most conservative anabaptist group in the world. All the residents of Haran and Gruenwald are of old colony origin.

I have heard rumblings that things are changing in Lower Barton Creek; some other group has come in and influenced them and persuaded them to get rebaptised in order to be more "spiritual" which (as always) comes along with more worldly practices.

Just out of curiosity where have you heard that?

I think it would have been about the Upper community, but this came secondhand from someone who had recently visited another Hoover community.

Some group is running around Belize trying to do this, don't remember the name. I guess the Hoovers considered Belize a "lost cause" now. I can perhaps try to find out some more details.

[lmcdoss]

I have heard rumblings that things are changing in Lower Barton Creek; some other group has come in and influenced them and persuaded them to get rebaptised in order to be more "spiritual" which (as always) comes along with more worldly practices.

Just out of curiosity where have you heard that?

I think it would have been about the Upper community, but this came secondhand from someone who had recently visited another Hoover community.

Some group is running around Belize trying to do this, don't remember the name. I guess the Hoovers considered Belize a "lost cause" now. I can perhaps try to find out some more details.

They are still growing in Belize though. There are always groups who try to target those who are more conservative. It happens all the time in Latin America against the Old Colony Mennonites.
would be great if you could get more details from that yes.

[HansMacDonald]

La Gloria is evangelical.
Haran's mother colony is Gruenwald that is in fellowship with Lower Barton Creek, the most conservative anabaptist group in the world. All the residents of Haran and Gruenwald are of old colony origin.

I have heard rumblings that things are changing in Lower Barton Creek; some other group has come in and influenced them and persuaded them to get rebaptised in order to be more "spiritual" which (as always) comes along with more worldly practices.

You probably mean Upper Barton Creek that was noah hoover mennonites. They started leaving in 2017 for Birdwalk and roseville because of tourism. Some old order mennonites from Canada moved in, but the colony is pretty much empty.

Only other Low German mennonites would be able to influence the Lower Barton Creek on those matter because of language. They do not learn english in their schools( so they only learn the basic after school for trade) even though Belize's official language is english.

Do you know if the Noah Hoover community of Springfield, Belize is prospering still?

[lmcdoss]

I have heard rumblings that things are changing in Lower Barton Creek; some other group has come in and influenced them and persuaded them to get rebaptised in order to be more "spiritual" which (as always) comes along with more worldly practices.

You probably mean Upper Barton Creek that was noah hoover mennonites. They started leaving in 2017 for Birdwalk and roseville because of tourism. Some old order mennonites from Canada moved in, but the colony is pretty much empty.

Only other Low German mennonites would be able to influence the Lower Barton Creek on those matter because of language. They do not learn english in their schools( so they only learn the basic after school for trade) even though Belize's official language is english.

Do you know if the Noah Hoover community of Springfield, Belize is prospering still?

Yes it is still prospering.

[HansMacDonald]

I have heard the EPMC is having success in gaining converts from the Old Colony Mennonites in Bolivia. The EPMC already has three congregations in Bolivia originating from the Old Colony Mennonites.