Detecting the next pandemic

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
ken_sylvania
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Re: Detecting the next pandemic

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JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 8:11 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 5:20 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 3:21 pm
It’s too bad they took away affordable ethical options for us.
I don't like that either. However, there is a moral calculus there, and shockingly, I wind up in the same place as the Pope of Rome and the Jesuits. Who would have thunk it.
There is no such thing as a "moral calculus" when it comes to killing babies and using their tissue to try to prolong our own lives.

Anabaptists are people who are willing to lay down their own lives in order not to do something immoral and sinful. I am not surprised, however, to hear the Catholic church is busy compromising on its principles again. They are very good at a "moral calculus" that justifies killing people.
Must be nice living in a world where everything is black and white and there is never any question about what is right.
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Valerie
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Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 3:21 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 3:16 pm Look at what is happening in Bangladesh with Measles right now...........totally unnecessary.
It’s too bad they took away affordable ethical options for us.
All the doctors I listened to that were censored were not against “all” vaccines but were the mRNA vaccine which Covid 19 was mRNA. I appreciated their “science” which has now been documented as effective.
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Judas Maccabeus
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Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 9:33 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 3:21 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 3:16 pm Look at what is happening in Bangladesh with Measles right now...........totally unnecessary.
It’s too bad they took away affordable ethical options for us.
All the doctors I listened to that were censored were not against “all” vaccines but were the mRNA vaccine which Covid 19 was mRNA. I appreciated their “science” which has now been documented as effective.
If you are talking about Ivermectin, that simply is not true. Want peer-reviewed, double blind studies? I already posted one.

But hey, go ahead and take your sheep medicine. Just be careful, as the therapeutic range is narrow. I had a friend poison himself trying to prevent bedbugs.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 10:14 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 9:33 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 3:21 pm
It’s too bad they took away affordable ethical options for us.
All the doctors I listened to that were censored were not against “all” vaccines but were the mRNA vaccine which Covid 19 was mRNA. I appreciated their “science” which has now been documented as effective.
If you are talking about Ivermectin, that simply is not true. Want peer-reviewed, double blind studies? I already posted one.

But hey, go ahead and take your sheep medicine. Just be careful, as the therapeutic range is narrow. I had a friend poison himself trying to prevent bedbugs.
Well
Pick your poison. Our pharmacist is discouraging Covid vaccine ( if you ask his opinion) and my 89 yo mother’s doctor discouraged her from getting it last year. Why?
You obviously have different reports on ivermectin than that which wax presented at the senate hearing.
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Judas Maccabeus
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Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 10:37 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 10:14 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 9:33 pm

All the doctors I listened to that were censored were not against “all” vaccines but were the mRNA vaccine which Covid 19 was mRNA. I appreciated their “science” which has now been documented as effective.
If you are talking about Ivermectin, that simply is not true. Want peer-reviewed, double blind studies? I already posted one.

But hey, go ahead and take your sheep medicine. Just be careful, as the therapeutic range is narrow. I had a friend poison himself trying to prevent bedbugs.
Well
Pick your poison. Our pharmacist is discouraging Covid vaccine ( if you ask his opinion) and my 89 yo mother’s doctor discouraged her from getting it last year. Why?
You obviously have different reports on ivermectin than that which wax presented at the senate hearing.
What was presented at that political show, masquerading as a hearing were “testimonials, not peer reviewed studies. They ne is unbiased evidence, the other is an N=1 report. These are almost useless in determining what actually works, as there is no comparison to a control. That is such basic science, I teach it to 8th graders, and they understand. No control, no evidence.
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Re: Detecting the next pandemic

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Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 10:37 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 10:14 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 9:33 pm

All the doctors I listened to that were censored were not against “all” vaccines but were the mRNA vaccine which Covid 19 was mRNA. I appreciated their “science” which has now been documented as effective.
If you are talking about Ivermectin, that simply is not true. Want peer-reviewed, double blind studies? I already posted one.

But hey, go ahead and take your sheep medicine. Just be careful, as the therapeutic range is narrow. I had a friend poison himself trying to prevent bedbugs.
Well
Pick your poison. Our pharmacist is discouraging Covid vaccine ( if you ask his opinion) and my 89 yo mother’s doctor discouraged her from getting it last year. Why?
You obviously have different reports on ivermectin than that which wax presented at the senate hearing.
Cleveland Clinic doesn’t offer COVID-19 vaccines anymore. If you call and ask for one they send you to a drugstore.

Hey, though, that’s only N=1 of world-class healthcare systems. Maybe Private Equity Consolidated Healthcare, Inc. doing business as Affinity Partners Signify HealthNet in East Upchuck, Iowa is still busy flogging these vaccines.
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Valerie
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2026 12:30 am
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 10:37 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 10:14 pm

If you are talking about Ivermectin, that simply is not true. Want peer-reviewed, double blind studies? I already posted one.

But hey, go ahead and take your sheep medicine. Just be careful, as the therapeutic range is narrow. I had a friend poison himself trying to prevent bedbugs.
Well
Pick your poison. Our pharmacist is discouraging Covid vaccine ( if you ask his opinion) and my 89 yo mother’s doctor discouraged her from getting it last year. Why?
You obviously have different reports on ivermectin than that which wax presented at the senate hearing.
What was presented at that political show, masquerading as a hearing were “testimonials, not peer reviewed studies. They ne is unbiased evidence, the other is an N=1 report. These are almost useless in determining what actually works, as there is no comparison to a control. That is such basic science, I teach it to 8th graders, and they understand. No control, no evidence.
I would take real testimonials compared to the lies we were told any day
I go through this same skepticism with our doctor when we share what supplements have done for us. He laughs but you can’t argue with the results. Real testimony has value.
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Calling it sheep medicine or saying the vaccine is poison just serves to deepen and polarize your position.
No one is won by insult and provocation.
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Valerie
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Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2026 6:24 am Calling it sheep medicine or saying the vaccine is poison just serves to deepen and polarize your position.
No one is won by insult and provocation.
“Pick your poison” is simply a saying not saying vaccine is actually a poison. I’ve heard this saying most of my life- not as literal poison.
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Judas Maccabeus
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Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2026 6:24 am Calling it sheep medicine or saying the vaccine is poison just serves to deepen and polarize your position.
No one is won by insult and provocation.
There is a formulation of ivermectin for humans with parasites. A doctors can write a prescription for it. But taking veterinary formulations for off label indications is simply risky and irresponsible behavior, full stop. As I said, I had a friend who wound up in “A&E” while backpacking. Microwaving your sleeping bag works far better. Do not try if it has a zipper.
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