US Attacks Iran 2026

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Re: US Attacks Iran 2026

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Soloist wrote: While I don’t know what intel is kept back, I do know what has been done and what is being telegraphed by troop movements.
A good assumption is never take the public statements as reality. Look at what they do. In terms of military engagements and strategy...
Wise. I was somewhat taken in by the confident assertions of the Bush administration concerning the Iraqi nuclear program, assuming they were holding back on good intel, but that proved false.
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Re: US Attacks Iran 2026

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Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 9:20 am Every military expert, Colonel former leader, giving their analysis said you cannot trust the Iranian regime at all and negotiations.
The American regime, of course, is completely trustworthy.
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 9:20 am There is no one that I’ve heard being interviewed believe that you can everything I watch is the actual people not just journalist commenting on it but round tables discussions, interviews, press, conferences, etc. where are they’re actually The people involved making the decision decisions
Yes, but...
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 8:32 am We need to accept the fact that we will not be made privy to all the intelligence that those making decisions have- we probably know a fraction of it so in a sense we cannot speak into a situation with anything but guessing, probably futile.
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Re: US Attacks Iran 2026

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Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 9:20 am
Soloist wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 9:17 am
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 8:32 am

We need to accept the fact that we will not be made privy to all the intelligence that those making decisions have- we probably know a fraction of it so in a sense we cannot speak into a situation with anything but guessing, probably futile.
I listen to the “talks” & speeches (I watch a lot of it live, yet I know I’m not hearing all they know to be able to analyze this in the same way only they can. And depending on your news source you may not be getting all and the most up to date information anyways. We here are so limited on everything to do with analyzing let alone making decisions that are best for our country, Israel, our allies, the Mid-East in general and the oppressed Iranians
Yeah I don’t listen to his speeches or the media. What I do is I read tactical analysis of the military moves or strategic planning.
While I don’t know what intel is kept back, I do know what has been done and what is being telegraphed by troop movements.
A good assumption is never take the public statements as reality. Look at what they do. In terms of military engagements and strategy, I get much more from my sources then the media gives. Unless the media is giving names and pictures, it’s just opinions regurgitated over and over.
I’m not on anyone’s side but regardless of enemy, attacking during negotiations is a bad move for any future negotiations to be in good faith.
Every military expert, Colonel former leader, giving their analysis said you cannot trust the Iranian regime at all and negotiations. There is no one that I’ve heard being interviewed believe that you can everything I watch is the actual people not just journalist commenting on it but round tables discussions, interviews, press, conferences, etc. where are they’re actually The people involved making the decision decisions
Answer a few questions please

Can you trust any nation who attacks during negotiations?

Why would our president engage in negotiations if you can’t trust them?
It’s either he can’t be trusted, is naive, or he sees them as rational and able to be negotiated with.

How do you define rational and irrational?
That question is neutral from morality.
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Soloist wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:21 am
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 9:20 am
Soloist wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 9:17 am

Yeah I don’t listen to his speeches or the media. What I do is I read tactical analysis of the military moves or strategic planning.
While I don’t know what intel is kept back, I do know what has been done and what is being telegraphed by troop movements.
A good assumption is never take the public statements as reality. Look at what they do. In terms of military engagements and strategy, I get much more from my sources then the media gives. Unless the media is giving names and pictures, it’s just opinions regurgitated over and over.
I’m not on anyone’s side but regardless of enemy, attacking during negotiations is a bad move for any future negotiations to be in good faith.
Every military expert, Colonel former leader, giving their analysis said you cannot trust the Iranian regime at all and negotiations. There is no one that I’ve heard being interviewed believe that you can everything I watch is the actual people not just journalist commenting on it but round tables discussions, interviews, press, conferences, etc. where are they’re actually The people involved making the decision decisions
Answer a few questions please

Can you trust any nation who attacks during negotiations?

Why would our president engage in negotiations if you can’t trust them?
It’s either he can’t be trusted, is naive, or he sees them as rational and able to be negotiated with.

How do you define rational and irrational?
That question is neutral from morality.
I can’t remember everything that is explained by him/them
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Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 1:32 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:21 am
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 9:20 am

Every military expert, Colonel former leader, giving their analysis said you cannot trust the Iranian regime at all and negotiations. There is no one that I’ve heard being interviewed believe that you can everything I watch is the actual people not just journalist commenting on it but round tables discussions, interviews, press, conferences, etc. where are they’re actually The people involved making the decision decisions
Answer a few questions please

Can you trust any nation who attacks during negotiations?

Why would our president engage in negotiations if you can’t trust them?
It’s either he can’t be trusted, is naive, or he sees them as rational and able to be negotiated with.

How do you define rational and irrational?
That question is neutral from morality.
I can’t remember everything that is explained by him/them
Is him/them Trump's pronouns?
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Re: US Attacks Iran 2026

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ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 1:41 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 1:32 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:21 am

Answer a few questions please

Can you trust any nation who attacks during negotiations?

Why would our president engage in negotiations if you can’t trust them?
It’s either he can’t be trusted, is naive, or he sees them as rational and able to be negotiated with.

How do you define rational and irrational?
That question is neutral from morality.
I can’t remember everything that is explained by him/them
Is him/them Trump's pronouns?
Trump & military advisors and all experts giving commentary. He’s not a Lone Ranger.
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Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:47 pm He’s not a Lone Ranger.
He used to think he was.

2016:

https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pr ... ne-ranger/
Trump compared himself to masked vigilante the Lone Ranger in a Washington Post interview published Saturday.

“I am,” Trump said. “Because I understand life. And I understand how life works. I’m the Lone Ranger.”
2020:

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ohio jones wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 11:07 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:47 pm He’s not a Lone Ranger.
He used to think he was.

2016:

https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pr ... ne-ranger/
Trump compared himself to masked vigilante the Lone Ranger in a Washington Post interview published Saturday.

“I am,” Trump said. “Because I understand life. And I understand how life works. I’m the Lone Ranger.”
2020:

He probably did feel that way back then.
He truly appreciates his staff and is very complimentary to them and so many- for someone whose boasting I really tire of, I do appreciate the praise he gives others regarding their work. Of course if he doesn’t line you….
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Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:47 pm Trump & military advisors and all experts giving commentary. He’s not a Lone Ranger.
Which of his cabinet seems on the side of advising him to attack Iran?
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barnhart wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2026 6:47 am
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:47 pm Trump & military advisors and all experts giving commentary. He’s not a Lone Ranger.
Which of his cabinet seems on the side of advising him to attack Iran?
I haven’t heard any of them that haven’t affirmed this step.
Who knows what goes on behind their closed doors and meetings. I have listened to many political people that convey a very positive affirmation more like “it’s about time a president did something about this” type of attitude. I realize I watch a lot of interviews while I’m busy doing things as l am interested in learning- obviously it is of interest on this forum, but I am not against watching live interviews on television so it helps me hear from those who are part of the system.
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