Are you sure? My understanding is that his preying on young boys was known, but there was a belief him getting married would straighten him out. As opposed to a more sensible policy of “anyone who has a history of preying on young boys isn’t a good candidate for a mission”.
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Every person on Facebook has a personal Profile page. That person has the ability to delete any comment people post on their page. Trudy can't control what people say, but she certainly can delete the name calling, slander, and other unseemly posts. So, she does have control over what appears on her Facebook page.JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 8:56 amI agree.I Timothy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 8:43 am One of the saddest consequences of public battles between SS and TM is that survivors become collateral damage.
When the focus shifted from listening to survivors to attacking each other's credibility, victims will wonder if speaking up is worth the cost. Some feel pressured to choose sides. Others decide it's safer to remain silent.
Advocates will disagree, and accountability matters. But the goal should never be winning a public fight—it should be creating a path where survivors can tell the truth, be heard, and receive justice and care.
TM needs to learn that others say the same things she does. They are peers, not opponents of some big battle.
However, one thing that tires me is people complaining about other random people and calling them “Trudy’s followers”. She has no control over those people, yet people act like she’s somehow responsible for what they say.
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I don't think it's reasonable to expect Trudy to become some kind of censor. In addition, there are quite a few other groups she doesn't control where these same discussions go on.Grace wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 12:07 pm Every person on Facebook has a personal Profile page. That person has the ability to delete any comment people post on their page. Trudy can't control what people say, but she certainly can delete the name calling, slander, and other unseemly posts. So, she does have control over what appears on her Facebook page.
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i’m not tech savvy, FB savvy, or generally savvy.Grace wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 12:07 pm Every person on Facebook has a personal Profile page. That person has the ability to delete any comment people post on their page. Trudy can't control what people say, but she certainly can delete the name calling, slander, and other unseemly posts. So, she does have control over what appears on her Facebook page.
i believe FB users can+do delete, block, etc., IN ADDITION, they can renounce content - even while allowing it.
my impression was, the posts were noticed+appreciated. i left the page.
anyway. as an outsider, i noticed this going on when Ernie first alerted the forum of the FB activities.
i haven’t returned.
P.8 / i appreciate I Timothy.
SIN is THE culprit. SIN loves divisiveness. The onus is upon SIN.
Last sentence, i think WE ALL need this reminder. Esp to prevent SIN from delighting in us.I Timothy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 8:43 am One of the saddest consequences of public battles between SS and TM is that survivors become collateral damage.
When the focus shifted from listening to survivors to attacking each other's credibility, victims will wonder if speaking up is worth the cost. Some feel pressured to choose sides. Others decide it's safer to remain silent.
Advocates will disagree, and accountability matters. But the goal should never be winning a public fight—it should be creating a path where survivors can tell the truth, be heard, and receive justice and care.
TM [we all] needs to learn that others say the same things she does. They are peers, not opponents of some big battle.
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”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
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It is reasonable, since she responds to many of the posts on FB. I am unaware of the other groups, and you are right she has no control over what is said there.JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 12:20 pmI don't think it's reasonable to expect Trudy to become some kind of censor. In addition, there are quite a few other groups she doesn't control where these same discussions go on.Grace wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 12:07 pm Every person on Facebook has a personal Profile page. That person has the ability to delete any comment people post on their page. Trudy can't control what people say, but she certainly can delete the name calling, slander, and other unseemly posts. So, she does have control over what appears on her Facebook page.
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As well, my impression is, she’s somewhat of a professional, counseling, advising, writing, if by default? In my view, this impacts responsibility.
Grace, i appreciate your consistent recognition of and appreciation for, her important work.
i pray for God’s will in resolving this matter - esp for benefit of victims.
SIN is THE culprit.
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i’m perfectly comfortable with an older, wiser, more docile Trump.
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
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I don't know of anyone who thought he was still preying on boys who was ok with him being involved in missions. They thought he had quit for good.JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 10:05 amAre you sure? My understanding is that his preying on young boys was known,
I've heard this before, maybe from you, but I don't know if this was fact or not.
Correct. I think many leaders now understand this who did not understand this before.
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A wee little man can’t say, I’m sorry. A big man owns his mistakes and apologizes.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.
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Maybe that's part of what I simply cannot fathom / understand; regardless of forgiveness, I don't understand thinking it is OK to send someone who has done such things into a mission situation. Maybe there was a different mindset that is very different from my own mindset.Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 5:50 pmI don't know of anyone who thought he was still preying on boys who was ok with him being involved in missions. They thought he had quit for good.
Part of the problem Trudy faced in trying to expose this was that some people insisted it was "unforgiving" to bring up the past things he'd done as supporting evidence that they may still be going on. However, the truth is that people who prey on multiple children tend to be repeat offenders, so it is actually quite prudent to look at past history. Trudy was spoken of very, very poorly back then for her role in exposing what Jeriah Mast was doing. Considering the rest of the plain world got it wrong... it would seem that Trudy should be given a lot of grace (perhaps as much as has been given to supposedly repentant child molesters) for how she does things. Criticism of Trudy's methods perhaps should be reserved until the rest of us have been getting it right for a while.
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I have been pretty disappointed in the conservative anabaptist response to abuse in the past few years. Maybe it was an undertone growing up and I just never realized, but seeing men in authority acting like I have seen on Facebook pretty much destroys any respect I ever had for that segment of the Mennonite culture
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I have come to see sexual abuse is a subset of power abuse. This is why I would like to see Anabaptists commonly practice a one strike policy for leaders and sexual abuse. Once authority has been abused in that way, I don't think a church should ever hand it back. God can raise up new leaders. The repentant can go on to serve in ways that do not put them in position of authority.JetsforJesus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 6:34 pm I have been pretty disappointed in the conservative anabaptist response to abuse in the past few years. Maybe it was an undertone growing up and I just never realized, but seeing men in authority acting like I have seen on Facebook pretty much destroys any respect I ever had for that segment of the Mennonite culture
As far as people showing their character on Facebook, maybe this can be a moment to reconsider who is put in positions of authority. I knew a man who thought he was gifted to be a pastor and told people about it. When the time came to ordain, his name did not surface. This is wise.
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