Illegal alien arrivals now greater than American births?

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2026 / looking back .. with Grace .. :-|

2023:
Grace wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:01 am
mike wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:17 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:06 pm It wouldn’t make any difference. It simply doesn’t work to have this many people flooding the country.

Incidentally the #3 group of illegal aliens by country are Indians. India is a long way from America and it involves either a plane ride or a very long boat ride to get here. Why are so many infesting this country?
You're an immigrant if I remember correctly.

In my opinion, the use of the term infesting is offensive and shouldn't really be allowed on this board because it is a disgraceful way to refer to human beings.
I agree the term "infesting" should not used in reference to people.

However I am not sure what word could be used to describe the dramatic increase in
human trafficking,
the sex trafficking,
the rapes of women and little girls,
the fentanyl,
padding the pockets of evil cartels with millions of dollars, since 2021?

Is there a better word that could be used to describe babies thrown into the river by cartel traffickers?
Or 50 people being cooked alive in a trailer?

Although the word "infestation" in reference to people is wrong, that word is mild if used to describe the actions and policies that encourage and embolden the horrible evils that accompany open borders
,

^^it seems .. now that reports are the border is secure, memories are fading wrt how bad it was. Grace reminds.

fwiw, for myself, i would think using the word, infestation, would be similar to references of Nazis.
another extra-Biblical word.

a quick forum search shows Nazi at 950+ times, infestation -200, including this week.
i don’t think i’ve used either. like most, i just don’t.

i’m for choosing respectable language. not banning language. which so quickly becomes problematic.
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 11:34 am i’m for choosing respectable language. not banning language. which so quickly becomes problematic.
I don’t think anyone here is banning language or suggesting that language should be banned. If free speech allows offensive speech, it also allows challenges to that speech.

The “infestation” thread now has a 127 responses. Thats not banned speech; that’s a discussion and isn’t this a discussion forum? ;)
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 12:57 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 11:34 am i’m for choosing respectable language. not banning language. which so quickly becomes problematic.
I don’t think anyone here is banning language or suggesting that language should be banned. If free speech allows offensive speech, it also allows challenges to that speech.

The “infestation” thread now has a 127 responses. Thats not banned speech; that’s a discussion and isn’t this a discussion forum? ;)
it’s 3 yrs ago, but, you ignored mike’s words above?
however, my impression is he (if inadvertantly) spoke for some. as revealed in your current topic.

i’m not presuming he would repeat his former words.
time moves on, circumstances change.

for all of us.

in the quotes above, Grace’s words mean most to me. by a lot.
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 1:18 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 12:57 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 11:34 am i’m for choosing respectable language. not banning language. which so quickly becomes problematic.
I don’t think anyone here is banning language or suggesting that language should be banned. If free speech allows offensive speech, it also allows challenges to that speech.

The “infestation” thread now has a 127 responses. Thats not banned speech; that’s a discussion and isn’t this a discussion forum? ;)
it’s 3 yrs ago, but, you ignored mike’s words above?
however, my impression is he (if inadvertantly) spoke for some. as revealed in your current topic.

i’m not presuming he would repeat his former words.
time moves on, circumstances change.

for all of us.

in the quotes above, Grace’s words mean most to me. by a lot.
I had noticed in several of your posts you had mentioned concern over free speech and whether language was being banned. I just wanted to assure you that I don’t think that’s happening here.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 1:42 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 1:18 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 12:57 pm i don’t think anyone here is banning language or suggesting that language should be banned. If free speech allows offensive speech, it also allows challenges to that speech.

The “infestation” thread now has a 127 responses. Thats not banned speech; that’s a discussion and isn’t this a discussion forum? ;)
it’s 3 yrs ago, but, you ignored mike’s words above?
however, my impression is he (if inadvertantly) spoke for some. as revealed in your current topic.

i’m not presuming he would repeat his former words.
time moves on, circumstances change.

for all of us.

in the quotes above, Grace’s words mean most to me. by a lot.
I had noticed in several of your posts you had mentioned concern over free speech and whether language was being banned. I just wanted to assure you that I don’t think that’s happening here.
If it is, i accept it. i respect the forum’s right to be subjective, with and/or without explanation.

banning language+thought by force of the sword is another matter.

i don’t consider public schools/libraries controlling printed material for children and minors to be bannng.
It’s specific to children+minors AND everything is readily available outside those locations. That’s not banning.
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 1:45 pm banning language+thought by force of the sword is another matter.
While the pen may be mightier than the sword, I assure you that I’ve been penning and not swording. :D
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 2:31 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 1:45 pm banning language+thought by force of the sword is another matter.
While the pen may be mightier than the sword, I assure you that I’ve been penning and not swording. :D
i’ve been penning too much. i need to STOP THAT. (another Robert memory) :cry:
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 2:31 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 1:45 pm banning language+thought by force of the sword is another matter.
While the pen may be mightier than the sword, I assure you that I’ve been penning and not swording. :D
Ich penne sehr häufig.
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1. Are we discussing the topic? Good.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 3:06 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 2:31 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2026 1:45 pm banning language+thought by force of the sword is another matter.
While the pen may be mightier than the sword, I assure you that I’ve been penning and not swording. :D
Ich penne sehr häufig.
Ich bin ein Englischlehrer mit einem MDiv, der in den Sommerferien ist und viele Gedanken im Kopf hat.
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If it weren’t for the two World Wars, the U.S. might be bilingual today, English+German.
And a whole lot more.

Americans of German descent paid a heavy price in those years, it’s impossible to know all the ways; as well, all the losses to the overall U.S. It’s ignored as if it never happened.
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