I don't believe in the pre-tribulation "rapture"...

[JayP]

There is nothing that inspires less confidence than someone who is so confident they have Revelation all figured out.

[Outsider]

There is nothing that inspires less confidence than someone who is so confident they have Revelation all figured out.

I don't have it all figured out. I have opinions and beliefs on some elements. And those don't include the pre-trib "rapture". And that's because when Paul *introduces* the idea of a "rapture" (i.e. "We shall not all sleep..."), he describes it as happening AFTER the raising of the dead, when Jesus returns in glory- when they will "meet him in the air". Nothing like what Hal Lindsay & the "pre-tribulation" folks offer.

So in my view, either Paul or Lindsay had it right. And I'll go with Paul on this one.

[barnhart]

There is nothing that inspires less confidence than someone who is so confident they have Revelation all figured out.

I don't have it all figured out. I have opinions and beliefs on some elements. And those don't include the pre-trib "rapture". And that's because when Paul *introduces* the idea of a "rapture" (i.e. "We shall not all sleep..."), he describes it as happening AFTER the raising of the dead, when Jesus returns in glory- when they will "meet him in the air". Nothing like what Hal Lindsay & the "pre-tribulation" folks offer.

So in my view, either Paul or Lindsay had it right. And I'll go with Paul on this one.

Fair point.