US Attacks Iran 2026

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Esdras wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2026 5:11 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2026 12:22 am
Esdras wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 11:48 pm Like others here, I mourn the loss of life on both sides, even having worked closely and remained in contact with senior members of the IDF.
I guess you weren't kidding about working in cybersecurity. Maybe we've grabbed a quick bite at a Burgerim with some of the same people.
One of my former colleagues is a commander (a female commander, in fact) of hundreds of people in Unit 8200. The late stage startup I worked for most recently was Israeli as well, so about 10-15%, maybe more, were all “reservists.” You get to see a very different perspective when the folks who are absent from work meetings are off performing hostage rescue operations. It really turns the volume down on whatever mundane white collar work is being discussed.
Are you non-resistant? how would that impact your perception of this past job?
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Soloist wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2026 7:07 am
Esdras wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2026 5:11 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2026 12:22 am

I guess you weren't kidding about working in cybersecurity. Maybe we've grabbed a quick bite at a Burgerim with some of the same people.
One of my former colleagues is a commander (a female commander, in fact) of hundreds of people in Unit 8200. The late stage startup I worked for most recently was Israeli as well, so about 10-15%, maybe more, were all “reservists.” You get to see a very different perspective when the folks who are absent from work meetings are off performing hostage rescue operations. It really turns the volume down on whatever mundane white collar work is being discussed.
Are you non-resistant? how would that impact your perception of this past job?
Great question! Thank you for asking it. My view on non-resistance is a bit nuanced. Rather than lengthen my response more than necessary, I’ll state my present position plainly.

1. I would not personally serve in or support any war that positions Christians against Christians, full stop.

2. I would not ever exercise any right (real or imagined) to self defense in the preservation of my own life while engaging in open air preaching or evangelistic activities.

3. I might defend myself if it were apparent that there was a clear and immediate threat to my wife and children. This is the only reason I currently own weapons.

4. My perspectives on non-resistance almost always extend to non-participation in voting in civil matters, despite being eligible to. I’ve voted twice, and only at the strong urging of my wife. In hindsight I do deeply regret having done so in both instances.

5. I would be highly skeptical of the concept of a just war under almost every conceivable circumstance.

6. I’m not confident that America was right to separate from England, despite my (admittedly small) knowledge of the history of that time.

7. I would not consider myself to be patriotic and believe all forms of nationalism to be a great danger.

Hopefully this helps clarify my current understanding.
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A concept in non-resistance is that the more justified you are in using force/violence (such as defence of the defenceless and innocent), the more we lay down our rights and don't use violence. Hence Jesus' words, "Resist not the evil doer". In order to do this, one must have a hope in a heavenly future, since we are accepting losing our earthly lives, treasure, and our families' lives.
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Esdras wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2026 7:41 am Great question! Thank you for asking it. My view on non-resistance is a bit nuanced. Rather than lengthen my response more than necessary, I’ll state my present position plainly.

1. I would not personally serve in or support any war that positions Christians against Christians, full stop.

2. I would not ever exercise any right (real or imagined) to self defense in the preservation of my own life while engaging in open air preaching or evangelistic activities.

3. I might defend myself if it were apparent that there was a clear and immediate threat to my wife and children. This is the only reason I currently own weapons.

4. My perspectives on non-resistance almost always extend to non-participation in voting in civil matters, despite being eligible to. I’ve voted twice, and only at the strong urging of my wife. In hindsight I do deeply regret having done so in both instances.

5. I would be highly skeptical of the concept of a just war under almost every conceivable circumstance.

6. I’m not confident that America was right to separate from England, despite my (admittedly small) knowledge of the history of that time.

7. I would not consider myself to be patriotic and believe all forms of nationalism to be a great danger.

Hopefully this helps clarify my current understanding.
Yes, that does help. I and my wife both served in the military and we were working through what we still believed so we called ourselves pacifists, and sort of got whacked by the first Mennonites we ate with.
They gave us a book by Dean Taylor “change of allegiance” he was also in the military and that actually laid out some pretty solid arguments and after that we decided we were non-resistant.
I don’t remember the exact nuance of where we stood at the time my wife would… but I would happily send you a copy of the book if you hadn’t read it and were interested.
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So this war started by the US is costing the US billions of dollars. And yet as Middle East continues these conflicts (including Israel border wars), the allies such as Israel, UAE, Kuwait, etc, are now buying billions of dollars in weapons from the US to replenish there arsenals. I guess I understood that the weapons manufacturers would benefit from arming the US, but its much more than only the US that needs more weapons. What a boost for them this war is.
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R7ehr wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2026 10:39 am So this war started by the US is costing the US billions of dollars. And yet as Middle East continues these conflicts (including Israel border wars), the allies such as Israel, UAE, Kuwait, etc, are now buying billions of dollars in weapons from the US to replenish there arsenals. I guess I understood that the weapons manufacturers would benefit from arming the US, but its much more than only the US that needs more weapons. What a boost for them this war is.
When America says war it means business...
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R7ehr wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2026 10:39 am So this war started by the US is costing the US billions of dollars. And yet as Middle East continues these conflicts (including Israel border wars), the allies such as Israel, UAE, Kuwait, etc, are now buying billions of dollars in weapons from the US to replenish there arsenals. I guess I understood that the weapons manufacturers would benefit from arming the US, but its much more than only the US that needs more weapons. What a boost for them this war is.
Just to be clear, the stuff being sold isn't really "weapons", but is rather military equipment that is purely for defensive purposes:
Under the terms of the deal with Qatar, the Gulf country would pay more than $4 billion for American-made Patriot missile interceptors — global stockpiles of which have dwindled during the war with Iran.

Israel, the Emirates and Qatar would receive an Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System, which fires laser-guided rockets. Kuwait also purchased an advanced aerial defense system for about $2.5 billion.
This seems like a good thing - a defence system that can't be used to launch attacks, but can protect a country from missile attacks. We should want more of this, and it's a good thing to spend money on.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2026 12:22 pm This seems like a good thing - a defence system that can't be used to launch attacks, but can protect a country from missile attacks. We should want more of this, and it's a good thing to spend money on.
Wouldn't this make it more likely for a country to attack others when they have less fear of counterattacks?
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JimFoxvog wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2026 7:22 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2026 12:22 pm This seems like a good thing - a defence system that can't be used to launch attacks, but can protect a country from missile attacks. We should want more of this, and it's a good thing to spend money on.
Wouldn't this make it more likely for a country to attack others when they have less fear of counterattacks?
This sounds like you’re against abuse of systems? Me, too.

Yet, like clockwork, abuse and distortion seems the immediate response to every new policy/law. Thus, more laws are crafted to protect others .. buildings full of human law!

Law to love
https://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php?t=3251

John 10:1
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barnhart wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2026 11:10 am
R7ehr wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2026 10:39 am So this war started by the US is costing the US billions of dollars. And yet as Middle East continues these conflicts (including Israel border wars), the allies such as Israel, UAE, Kuwait, etc, are now buying billions of dollars in weapons from the US to replenish there arsenals. I guess I understood that the weapons manufacturers would benefit from arming the US, but its much more than only the US that needs more weapons. What a boost for them this war is.
When America says war it means business...
It does.
The history of U.S. career politicians is sordid.

Time will tell if the current admin has a significantly different take on it. i pray so.
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