The price of oil and oil flows, due to the war with Iran

[ohio jones]

Sometimes as a Commander in Chief you have to do that which is for the greater good.

So the end justifies the means.

[Soloist]

I appreciate your compassion.
What do you think should have been done about the Iranian regime? They were slaughtering their own people. Do you have the same compassion for those living under an evil regime that slaughters its own people, and is determined to destroy Israel and America?

I don't think the answer is to bomb them. Don't mistake US action for compassion. The US would leave them in power if they met the terms.

Trump has been talking about doing something about Iran for a long time & so have other presidents.
What do you suggest as a way to keep them from nuclear warfare on the 2 nations they chant death to- namely Israel and America?
I’ve yet to hear anyone with an answer to that.

How many times has Iran attacked the US? How many times has the US attacked Iran?

Perhaps a good start is to apologize for US tampering in their nation which likely resulted in the government they had before the US attacked again. I’m referring to the coup which then had an uprising against it several years after.
The problem is all these bad things the US did was in the past making this mess now but Iran has been a few months from nukes for years. Did NK ever actually use them? Why not? Did the Arab nations with nukes use them? Why not?

[Valerie]

I don't think the answer is to bomb them. Don't mistake US action for compassion. The US would leave them in power if they met the terms.

Trump has been talking about doing something about Iran for a long time & so have other presidents.
What do you suggest as a way to keep them from nuclear warfare on the 2 nations they chant death to- namely Israel and America?
I’ve yet to hear anyone with an answer to that.

How many times has Iran attacked the US? How many times has the US attacked Iran?

Perhaps a good start is to apologize for US tampering in their nation which likely resulted in the government they had before the US attacked again. I’m referring to the coup which then had an uprising against it several years after.
The problem is all these bad things the US did was in the past making this mess now but Iran has been a few months from nukes for years. Did NK ever actually use them? Why not? Did the Arab nations with nukes use them? Why not?

I will leave it in the hands of those who know more than we do about how close they were. We absolute know they chant Death to Israel & Death to America.
We absolutely know the regime has been slaughtering thousands of their own citizens.

[Valerie]

Sometimes as a Commander in Chief you have to do that which is for the greater good.

So the end justifies the means.

I suppose I agree with just war (Saint Augustine) in a case like the situation in Iran.

[Szdfan]

Trump has been talking about doing something about Iran for a long time & so have other presidents.
What do you suggest as a way to keep them from nuclear warfare on the 2 nations they chant death to- namely Israel and America?
I’ve yet to hear anyone with an answer to that.

How many times has Iran attacked the US? How many times has the US attacked Iran?

Perhaps a good start is to apologize for US tampering in their nation which likely resulted in the government they had before the US attacked again. I’m referring to the coup which then had an uprising against it several years after.
The problem is all these bad things the US did was in the past making this mess now but Iran has been a few months from nukes for years. Did NK ever actually use them? Why not? Did the Arab nations with nukes use them? Why not?

I will leave it in the hands of those who know more than we do about how close they were. We absolute know they chant Death to Israel & Death to America.

They’ve been chanting “Death to America” since 1979. Are we now going to bomb countries and overthrow governments because of chanting?

We absolutely know the regime has been slaughtering thousands of their own citizens.

And now we are killing them. Why is our killing Iranian citizens morally justified?

[Szdfan]

Sometimes as a Commander in Chief you have to do that which is for the greater good.

So the end justifies the means.

I suppose I agree with just war (Saint Augustine) in a case like the situation in Iran.

Except this war doesn’t meet Saint Augustine’s criteria for a just war.

[Szdfan]

Trump has been talking about doing something about Iran for a long time & so have other presidents.
What do you suggest as a way to keep them from nuclear warfare on the 2 nations they chant death to- namely Israel and America?
I’ve yet to hear anyone with an answer to that.

I remember Trump promised not to get the US involved in any new foreign wars.

Please provide his quote in context.
Thank you!

It was one of his major campaign promises.

Here’s an example in Warren, MI on November 1, 2024.

https://www.rev.com/transcripts/trump-r ... igan-d04b6

Many Muslim and Arab Americans have friends and family living in the Middle East and Kamala is campaigning with warmongers like Liz Cheney. How do you think that is? They want to get the Arab American vote. They want to get the Muslim votes. She picks Liz Cheney whose father virtually destroyed the Middle East, right? I don't think it's working out too well. It's interesting.

If you give Liz Cheney, she talks big. Oh, I want war. She always wants war. Every time I was with her in the White House, we should attack this nation, that nation, nations that people never even heard of we should attack. She's a big tough guy. She's a big, tough one. She's a tough one. But if you gave Liz Cheney a gun and put her into battle facing the other side with guns pointing at her, she wouldn't have the courage or the strength or the stamina to even look the enemy in the eye.

She wouldn't have. She sits back in Washington. Oh, we ought to go and attack Iran, Iraq. We're going to attack everybody. That's why I broke up with her. All she wanted to do is go to war with everybody because she, like Kamala, is a stupid person. It's easy for her to say she wants to start wars from the comfort of her nice home or father's lavish home that he got from killing a big portion of the Middle East. You know that, right? He headed up a company that was a big company, a big beneficiary of the wars.

These war hawks, they want to draft your kids to die in wars and they will never fight themselves. Liz Cheney wouldn't fight. I'll go with her. I'll go to the Middle East. I'll go wherever she wants and we'll fight. She doesn't have the guts to fight.

If Kamala wins, only death and destruction await because she is the candidate of endless wars. I am the candidate of peace. I am peace. People don't believe that [inaudible 03:17:29]. But I need every Muslim American in Michigan to get the hell out and vote please, Mr. Mayors. All right, we got to get them out and vote. No, we want peace. Who doesn't want peace? Only stupid people like Cheney.

If Trump ran as the “candidate of peace” how does the bombing of Iran for that promise? Did he mean that promise literally, or was it campaign rhetoric?

[Valerie]

How many times has Iran attacked the US? How many times has the US attacked Iran?

Perhaps a good start is to apologize for US tampering in their nation which likely resulted in the government they had before the US attacked again. I’m referring to the coup which then had an uprising against it several years after.
The problem is all these bad things the US did was in the past making this mess now but Iran has been a few months from nukes for years. Did NK ever actually use them? Why not? Did the Arab nations with nukes use them? Why not?

I will leave it in the hands of those who know more than we do about how close they were. We absolute know they chant Death to Israel & Death to America.

They’ve been chanting “Death to America” since 1979. Are we now going to bomb countries and overthrow governments because of chanting?

We absolutely know the regime has been slaughtering thousands of their own citizens.

And now we are killing them. Why is our killing Iranian citizens morally justified?

You’re not following all of the story it seems

[Valerie]

I remember Trump promised not to get the US involved in any new foreign wars.

Please provide his quote in context.
Thank you!

It was one of his major campaign promises.

Here’s an example in Warren, MI on November 1, 2024.

https://www.rev.com/transcripts/trump-r ... igan-d04b6

Many Muslim and Arab Americans have friends and family living in the Middle East and Kamala is campaigning with warmongers like Liz Cheney. How do you think that is? They want to get the Arab American vote. They want to get the Muslim votes. She picks Liz Cheney whose father virtually destroyed the Middle East, right? I don't think it's working out too well. It's interesting.

If you give Liz Cheney, she talks big. Oh, I want war. She always wants war. Every time I was with her in the White House, we should attack this nation, that nation, nations that people never even heard of we should attack. She's a big tough guy. She's a big, tough one. She's a tough one. But if you gave Liz Cheney a gun and put her into battle facing the other side with guns pointing at her, she wouldn't have the courage or the strength or the stamina to even look the enemy in the eye.

She wouldn't have. She sits back in Washington. Oh, we ought to go and attack Iran, Iraq. We're going to attack everybody. That's why I broke up with her. All she wanted to do is go to war with everybody because she, like Kamala, is a stupid person. It's easy for her to say she wants to start wars from the comfort of her nice home or father's lavish home that he got from killing a big portion of the Middle East. You know that, right? He headed up a company that was a big company, a big beneficiary of the wars.

These war hawks, they want to draft your kids to die in wars and they will never fight themselves. Liz Cheney wouldn't fight. I'll go with her. I'll go to the Middle East. I'll go wherever she wants and we'll fight. She doesn't have the guts to fight.

If Kamala wins, only death and destruction await because she is the candidate of endless wars. I am the candidate of peace. I am peace. People don't believe that [inaudible 03:17:29]. But I need every Muslim American in Michigan to get the hell out and vote please, Mr. Mayors. All right, we got to get them out and vote. No, we want peace. Who doesn't want peace? Only stupid people like Cheney.

If Trump ran as the “candidate of peace” how does the bombing of Iran for that promise? Did he mean that promise literally, or was it campaign rhetoric?

He wasn’t voted to be President either time because of being the candidate of peace.
It’s not “peace” for the evil regime for sure.
Why were Iranians around the world dancing in the streets with signs thanking Trump?

[ken_sylvania]

If Trump ran as the “candidate of peace” how does the bombing of Iran for that promise? Did he mean that promise literally, or was it campaign rhetoric?

Oh, that one's easy. The more you bomb, the more pieces you have. People misunderstood him, as usual. He said "I am the candidate of pieces. I love pieces! You know, most people don't know this, but I've always been for pieces. If you elect me as president, we'll have so many pieces you'll be tired of pieces. You'll say 'Please, Mr. President, no more pieces. We have to much pieces!' "