A New American Dream

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
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Ernie
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A New American Dream

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A New American Dream: Leaving the US

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Re: A New American Dream

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Ernie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:55 am A New American Dream: Leaving the US

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/americans-l ... _permalink
In its 250th year, is America, land of immigration, becoming a country of emigration?

Last year the U.S. experienced something that hasn’t definitively occurred since the Great Depression: More people moved out than moved in. The Trump administration has hailed the exodus—negative net migration—as the fulfillment of its promise to ramp up deportations and restrict new visas. Beneath the stormy optics of that immigration crackdown, however, lies a less-noticed reversal: America’s own citizens are leaving in record numbers, replanting themselves and their families in lands they find more affordable and safe.

Since the Eisenhower administration, the U.S. hasn’t collected comprehensive statistics on the number of citizens leaving. Yet data on residence permits, foreign home purchases, student enrollments and other metrics from more than 50 countries show that Americans are voting with their feet to an unprecedented degree. A millions-strong diaspora is studying, telecommuting and retiring overseas.

The new American dream, for some of its citizens, is to no longer live there.
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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 1:11 pm
Ernie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:55 am A New American Dream: Leaving the US

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/americans-l ... _permalink
In its 250th year, is America, land of immigration, becoming a country of emigration?

Last year the U.S. experienced something that hasn’t definitively occurred since the Great Depression: More people moved out than moved in. The Trump administration has hailed the exodus—negative net migration—as the fulfillment of its promise to ramp up deportations and restrict new visas. Beneath the stormy optics of that immigration crackdown, however, lies a less-noticed reversal: America’s own citizens are leaving in record numbers, replanting themselves and their families in lands they find more affordable and safe.

Since the Eisenhower administration, the U.S. hasn’t collected comprehensive statistics on the number of citizens leaving. Yet data on residence permits, foreign home purchases, student enrollments and other metrics from more than 50 countries show that Americans are voting with their feet to an unprecedented degree. A millions-strong diaspora is studying, telecommuting and retiring overseas.

The new American dream, for some of its citizens, is to no longer live there.
Good riddens! I hope a lot of people leave that believe in making things worse here is a good thing. Starting with the loudest, 2 famous actors, both lesbian, left when Trump became president again. We know he is not held in reverence to far left women, LGBTQ, etc, many in Hollywood.
By the way, they all know they have to enter other countries LEGALLY and meet their requirements to stay.

I welcome the exodus of those who are loud about America hatred. Let them find peace elsewhere. Millions upon millions thought USA was their answer the last few years.
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Ernie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:55 am A New American Dream: Leaving the US

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/americans-l ... _permalink
I’m leaving tomorrow.
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JohnL
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Re: A New American Dream

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That article looks like clickbait for leftist political leaners.
Valerie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 9:00 pm
Good riddens! I hope a lot of people leave that believe in making things worse here is a good thing. Starting with the loudest, 2 famous actors, both lesbian, left when Trump became president again. We know he is not held in reverence to far left women, LGBTQ, etc, many in Hollywood.
By the way, they all know they have to enter other countries LEGALLY and meet their requirements to stay.

I welcome the exodus of those who are loud about America hatred. Let them find peace elsewhere. Millions upon millions thought USA was their answer the last few years.
Don’t celebrate too long. One has already bought their house back in CA and they came back after their England home flooded and the higher taxes. The other one just returned claiming she’s “feeling out how things are in the US”. I guess Ireland is tired of her.
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It may in fact be the case that America is not the best option for every single person to live here. I wish everyone well in finding a place to live where they can thrive and also be a blessing to others.
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Re: A New American Dream

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R7ehr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 10:15 pm
Ernie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:55 am A New American Dream: Leaving the US

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/americans-l ... _permalink
I’m leaving tomorrow.
On a jet plane? Do you know when you'll be back again?
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JohnL
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:lol:
barnhart wrote: ↑Fri Feb 27, 2026 7:35 am
R7ehr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 10:15 pm
Ernie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:55 am A New American Dream: Leaving the US

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/americans-l ... _permalink
I’m leaving tomorrow.
On a jet plane? Do you know when you'll be back again?
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R7ehr
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Re: A New American Dream

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barnhart wrote: ↑Fri Feb 27, 2026 7:35 am
R7ehr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 10:15 pm
Ernie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:55 am A New American Dream: Leaving the US

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/americans-l ... _permalink
I’m leaving tomorrow.
On a jet plane? Do you know when you'll be back again?
Yes. March 8. Guatemala.
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JayP
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Re: A New American Dream

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While I enjoy humor, and can say I have actually seen Peter, Paul and Mary in concert (although it’s a odd but great story how it came about), I am a bit perplexed how plain or conservative Mennonites can make a “Leaving on a jet plane joke”. Is not that level of familiarity with PPM rather inconsistent with separation?
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