Global Warning/Climate Change

[JohnH]

Thought I'd peek in and see how the "global warming" is going, as I currently am experiencing one of the deepest frosts in my area since the 1800s, which is as far back as we have any records.

[R7ehr]

Thought I'd peek in and see how the "global warming" is going, as I currently am experiencing one of the deepest frosts in my area since the 1800s, which is as far back as we have any records.

Climate rules: You can only bring up weather records if they are (1) heat related, or (2) hurricanes are worse than before.

Any inverse observations of these two, are merely weather, not climate indicators.

[JohnH]

Thought I'd peek in and see how the "global warming" is going, as I currently am experiencing one of the deepest frosts in my area since the 1800s, which is as far back as we have any records.

Climate rules: You can only bring up weather records if they are (1) heat related, or (2) hurricanes are worse than before.

Any inverse observations of these two, are merely weather, not climate indicators.

My observation is heat related: some people's furnaces / heaters are not working properly. Now they are experiencing very cold temps and freezing pipes.

A pipe froze in the rental house. It looks like it has been there a very long time - maybe since it was originally built in 1930. It has never frosted hard enough to make it get cold where it was before.

Of course, some people say that cold temperatures are due to global warming:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ate-crisis

(Apologies if that is overly-political of a link to share.)

[JimFoxvog]

Thought I'd peek in and see how the "global warming" is going, as I currently am experiencing one of the deepest frosts in my area since the 1800s, which is as far back as we have any records.

I think the word "global" is the clue. Australia is currently experiencing a severe heatwave, with temperatures expected to approach 50°C in some areas.

With the Arctic warming up, the wind patterns are not as stable, allowing Arctic air to flow south at times.

[JimFoxvog]

Scientists warn of rising risk of Earth becoming irreversible ‘hothouse’
‘We could be entering a period of unprecedented climate change,’ scientists warn


Scientists have warned that the Earth could be approaching a “hothouse” state that would be extremely difficult to reverse.

Several key parts of the Earth’s climate system appear closer to destabilising than previously believed, a new analysis finds.

These include critical “tipping points” – such as the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, the Amazon rainforest and major ocean currents – that could shift abruptly once certain temperature limits are crossed.

When one system destabilises, it can intensify warming elsewhere. Melting ice reduces the planet’s ability to reflect sunlight, causing further warming. Thawing permafrost and dying forests release additional greenhouse gases, which trap more heat.

The study published in One Earth said that interactions between these systems could create a chain reaction, locking the planet into a self-reinforcing “hothouse” trajectory – a state of sustained extreme warming and rising sea levels, even if emissions are later reduced.

“After a million years of oscillating between ice ages separated by warmer periods, the Earth’s climate stabilised more than 11,000 years ago, enabling agriculture and complex societies,” said William Ripple, who led the study.

“We’re now moving away from that stability and could be entering a period of unprecedented climate change.”

The warning comes as global temperatures have exceeded 1.5C above pre-industrial levels for 12 consecutive months. Earlier in December, the EU’s Copernicus Climate Change Service said that 2025 would complete the first three-year period in which the average global temperature exceeded by 1.5C. The Paris Agreement aims to limit long-term warming to 1.5C, measured over a 20-year average. But researchers say the sustained breach suggests the long-term threshold may already be at or near that level.

“Temperature limit exceedance is usually evaluated using 20-year averages, but climate model simulations suggest the recent 12-month breach indicates the long-term average temperature increase is at or near 1.5 degrees,” said Christopher Wolf, a co-author of the study.

“It’s likely that global temperatures are as warm as, or warmer than, at any point in the last 125,000 years and that climate change is advancing faster than many scientists predicted.”
[...]

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-c ... 18752.html

[Robert]

Earth used to be much warmer than it is now. It handled the "hothouse quite well. Not sure why it can't now. There were many more active volcanoes then there are now too., They emit much more co2 then any human effects.

[JohnH]

Currently we are experiencing global freezing.

[JimFoxvog]

Currently we are experiencing global freezing.

While big portions of Australia are at over 45°C. (113°F).


2025 was the third warmest year on record.

As Robert says, in the distant past, the temperature was likely higher. If we don't count mass extinctions and a significant portion of the human population dying, then warming might be OK. If we started facilitating mass migrations of people from warmer parts of the globe to cooler parts of the globe, some of the human deaths could be avoided.

[JimFoxvog]

A look at false claims made by the Trump administration as it revokes a key scientific finding
By MELISSA GOLDIN
Updated 4:56 PM CST, February 12, 2026


President Donald Trump on Thursday revoked the 2009 endangerment finding, which has long been the central basis for U.S. action to regulate greenhouse gas emissions and fight climate change.

But in making the announcement, Trump and Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lee Zeldin made false claims regarding the government declaration, climate change, and energy.

Here’s a closer look at the facts.

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TRUMP: “Known as the endangerment finding, this determination had no basis in fact, had none whatsoever, and it had no basis in law.”

THE FACTS: This is false. The endangerment finding was adopted in 2009 by the EPA after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases are air pollutants that can be regulated under the Clean Air Act.

“The idea that the endangerment finding has no basis in law is ludicrous,” said Ann Carlson, a professor of environmental law at the University of California, Los Angeles. “The Supreme Court in Massachusetts v. EPA specifically directed the Environmental Protection Agency to determine whether greenhouse gases endanger public health and welfare. The endangerment finding is the result.”

Scientific evidence to support the endangerment finding was provided by the EPA at the time of its inception and is still available on the agency’s website today. [https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files ... nt_tsd.pdf]

https://apnews.com/article/green-energy ... dium=share

[Robert]

If we started facilitating mass migrations of people from warmer parts of the globe to cooler parts of the globe, some of the human deaths could be avoided.

2/3rds of temperature related deaths are from cold. Only 1/3 are from heat. Moving to a warmer temperature would reduce temperature related deaths. It is easier and safer to deal with heat then cold.

A warmer global temperature will also reduce arid zones and produce more food through increased rainfall. Much less starvation.