Civil War-again?

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Bootstrap
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Re: Civil War-again?

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Valerie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 7:08 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 6:59 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 6:31 pm
Once you normalize ev protesting and resisting authorities trying to protect the American people, which is what they were voted in to do, that’s when you need to worry about where this will lead. W
The British are coming!

There must not be many history teachers around.
I forgot about Anabaptist beginning/history.
Resistance is an option so let’s encourage lawlessness.
If you really care about law and order, and someone might be breaking the law, then you want:

1. Witnesses
2. Evidence
3. Investigations
4. Accountability

This is especially true if the government might be breaking the law. When officials instead work to block those things, it makes me wonder what they’re hiding. When the government is deploying paramilitary forces on American soil, we are all very vulnerable, so checks and balances are especially crucial.

Peaceful protest and documenting what the government does aren’t lawlessness. This is how democracy is supposed to work. The government answers to the people and the rule of law. The people answer to the government and the rule of law. Nobody is above the law.
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1. Are we discussing the topic? Good.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
R7ehr
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Re: Civil War-again?

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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:01 pm Nobody is above the law.
That’s a quaint, rustic sentiment.
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Valerie
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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:01 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 7:08 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 6:59 pm

The British are coming!

There must not be many history teachers around.
I forgot about Anabaptist beginning/history.
Resistance is an option so let’s encourage lawlessness.
If you really care about law and order, and someone might be breaking the law, then you want:

1. Witnesses
2. Evidence
3. Investigations
4. Accountability

This is especially true if the government might be breaking the law. When officials instead work to block those things, it makes me wonder what they’re hiding. When the government is deploying paramilitary forces on American soil, we are all very vulnerable, so checks and balances are especially crucial.

Peaceful protest and documenting what the government does aren’t lawlessness. This is how democracy is supposed to work. The government answers to the people and the rule of law. The people answer to the government and the rule of law. Nobody is above the law.
It’s not peaceful when people are bashing their cars. Stealing government property, throwing bricks at them, arriving at protests fully armed with lots of ammunition ready to use.

I appreciate how “other” cities are cooperating with WHAT WAS VOTED to take place and why all 7 swing states voted for Trump to undo the damage the previous (lack of) administration did or did not do.

Only the lying media & lying governors paint the false picture it’s peaceful just like the lying “summer of love”
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temporal1
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R7ehr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:11 pm
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:01 pm Nobody is above the law.
That’s a quaint, rustic sentiment.
It surely is.
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JohnH
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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:01 pm If you really care about law and order, and someone might be breaking the law, then you want:

1. Witnesses
2. Evidence
3. Investigations
4. Accountability

This is especially true if the government might be breaking the law. When officials instead work to block those things, it makes me wonder what they’re hiding.
Considering the amount of eyewitness video footage, nothing is hidden. You also seem to assume the government isn’t doing investigations. Perhaps they are. They don’t have to tell you about an ongoing investigation.

The latest example is someone decided to brandish a firearm, confront officers, and then reached for his firearm. What do you expect the federal government to do?

The proper answer is that citizens need to stop trying to block federal agents from doing their job. This isn’t a civil war and armed resistance isn’t acceptable.
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Southerner
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JohnH wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:01 am
The latest example is someone decided to brandish a firearm, confront officers, and then reached for his firearm. What do you expect the federal government to do?
He never reached for his firearm and it appears the agents had already removed it out of his holster before they shot him.
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JohnH
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Southerner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:51 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:01 am
The latest example is someone decided to brandish a firearm, confront officers, and then reached for his firearm. What do you expect the federal government to do?
He never reached for his firearm and it appears the agents had already removed it out of his holster before they shot him.
So what was he teaching for?

I saw someone violently resisting arrest, instead of peacefully accepting arrest and asserting his rights later. When you’re armed, the police assume you have additional firearms on you and have every right to assume you are armed with hostile intent if you resist arrest.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 9:05 am
Southerner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:51 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:01 am
The latest example is someone decided to brandish a firearm, confront officers, and then reached for his firearm. What do you expect the federal government to do?
He never reached for his firearm and it appears the agents had already removed it out of his holster before they shot him.
So what was he teaching for?
I am not aware that he was a teacher. He was an ICU nurse with no criminal record...shot ten times. Seems like the makings of a Civil War
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Valerie
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Southerner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 9:10 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 9:05 am
Southerner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:51 am
He never reached for his firearm and it appears the agents had already removed it out of his holster before they shot him.
So what was he teaching for?
I am not aware that he was a teacher. He was an ICU nurse with no criminal record...shot ten times. Seems like the makings of a Civil War
If he left his weapon and rounds of ammunition at home, he’d be alive. Common sense.
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Southerner
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Valerie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 9:28 am
Southerner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 9:10 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Sun Jan 25, 2026 9:05 am

So what was he teaching for?
I am not aware that he was a teacher. He was an ICU nurse with no criminal record...shot ten times. Seems like the makings of a Civil War
If he left his weapon and rounds of ammunition at home, he’d be alive. Common sense.
Here is what you said earlier.

"The speed of which so many were hired for ICE I imagine there will some evil that slips through the cracks. I admit to be clueless to the screening of potential ICE agents.
I also believe there should be better training- I doubt there’s any more stressful job on the entire country.

Last night Trump said they are not without mistakes." -- Valerie

Speed kills!
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