Is a college education worth the cost?

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PTAs?
DPTs?
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JohnL wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:06 pm PTAs?
DPTs?
PTAs are paraprofessionals with an AA degree
DPTs are independent practitioners, who can practice independently. (Your mileage may vary depending on state)
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:30 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Dec 15, 2025 9:07 am
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 15, 2025 3:06 am

I don’t want to tell you what a board certified nuclear medicine technologist or physical therapist is making now. The internet answers are 15?years out of date.
PTAs make terrible money, at least here. Around $25-$30 an hour although lots of opportunity for overtime.

DPT is one of the poorest paid professions for a medical profession with a D in the title. Around $90,000 here. A primary care provider makes almost double that.
More like 125,000 here. Far more if you avoid the “chains.”
An electrician probably also makes quite a bit more.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:13 pm
JohnL wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:06 pm PTAs?
DPTs?
PTAs are paraprofessionals with an AA degree
DPTs are independent practitioners, who can practice independently. (Your mileage may vary depending on state)
Well now is a PTA a paraprofessional teaching assistant or is it something else?

What does DPT stand for?
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JohnL wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 11:37 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:13 pm
JohnL wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:06 pm PTAs?
DPTs?
PTAs are paraprofessionals with an AA degree
DPTs are independent practitioners, who can practice independently. (Your mileage may vary depending on state)
Well now is a PTA a paraprofessional teaching assistant or is it something else?

What does DPT stand for?
PTA is Physical Therapy Assistant
DPT is Doctor of Physical Thearpy
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JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:43 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:30 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Dec 15, 2025 9:07 am

PTAs make terrible money, at least here. Around $25-$30 an hour although lots of opportunity for overtime.

DPT is one of the poorest paid professions for a medical profession with a D in the title. Around $90,000 here. A primary care provider makes almost double that.
More like 125,000 here. Far more if you avoid the “chains.”
An electrician probably also makes quite a bit more.
Yes, but if you do new work, it is not exactly steady work. People who do repairs are much more secure. Most of the Union guys are doing new work.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:18 pm
JohnL wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 11:37 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:13 pm

PTAs are paraprofessionals with an AA degree
DPTs are independent practitioners, who can practice independently. (Your mileage may vary depending on state)
Well now is a PTA a paraprofessional teaching assistant or is it something else?

What does DPT stand for?
PTA is Physical Therapy Assistant
DPT is Doctor of Physical Thearpy
Okay that makes sense. There’s so many degree letters now it’s hard to keep up.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:20 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:43 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:30 am

More like 125,000 here. Far more if you avoid the “chains.”
An electrician probably also makes quite a bit more.
Yes, but if you do new work, it is not exactly steady work. People who do repairs are much more secure. Most of the Union guys are doing new work.
People who do repair work are pretty well employed too.

Note that I am referring to a journeyman or master electrician, not someone who first saw a circuit breaker last week and now works for a private equity owned firm selling panel upgrades.
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JohnL wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:25 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:18 pm
JohnL wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 11:37 pm
Well now is a PTA a paraprofessional teaching assistant or is it something else?

What does DPT stand for?
PTA is Physical Therapy Assistant
DPT is Doctor of Physical Thearpy
Okay that makes sense. There’s so many degree letters now it’s hard to keep up.
Tell me about it. When I trained, Physical Thearpy was a Bachelor's degree, and they trained in the same building as us. What 45 years can do.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:26 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:20 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:43 pm

An electrician probably also makes quite a bit more.
Yes, but if you do new work, it is not exactly steady work. People who do repairs are much more secure. Most of the Union guys are doing new work.
People who do repair work are pretty well employed too.

Note that I am referring to a journeyman or master electrician, not someone who first saw a circuit breaker last week and now works for a private equity owned firm selling panel upgrades.
which cannot even pull the required permit where I live.

It is the people that do the initial construction and large-scale commercial renovations that have the less certain flow of work. The repair guys doing old work normally have a stedy flow.
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