Developments in vaccines / drug safety

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Wesleyb wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:18 am Is it possible this will have a positive effect by introducing a scapegoat to replace vaccines as the cause of autism for the conspiracy minded? It seems to me scaring people off taking Tylenol during pregnancy would have far fewer negative consequences than scaring them off vaccines.
Sound reasoning but the damage has been done. I fear there are some hard lessons in our future about the pain of childhood disease.
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barnhart wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:23 am
Wesleyb wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:18 am Is it possible this will have a positive effect by introducing a scapegoat to replace vaccines as the cause of autism for the conspiracy minded? It seems to me scaring people off taking Tylenol during pregnancy would have far fewer negative consequences than scaring them off vaccines.
Sound reasoning but the damage has been done. I fear there are some hard lessons in our future about the pain of childhood disease.
Taking medical advice from politicians was pretty common about five years ago.
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mike wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:31 am
barnhart wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:23 am
Wesleyb wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:18 am Is it possible this will have a positive effect by introducing a scapegoat to replace vaccines as the cause of autism for the conspiracy minded? It seems to me scaring people off taking Tylenol during pregnancy would have far fewer negative consequences than scaring them off vaccines.
Sound reasoning but the damage has been done. I fear there are some hard lessons in our future about the pain of childhood disease.
Taking medical advice from politicians was pretty common about five years ago.
I think we burnt that bridge...
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Seems a lot of people are refusing to submit to government health authorities.

What’s odd is those same people were proclaiming how we absolutely must do so 5 years ago.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 8:46 am Seems a lot of people are refusing to submit to government health authorities.

What’s odd is those same people were proclaiming how we absolutely must do so 5 years ago.
RFK jr. and DJT, are simply NOT health authorities. Neither of them have any education or experience whatsoever.

Many of the ones during the pandemic did.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 9:30 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 8:46 am Seems a lot of people are refusing to submit to government health authorities.

What’s odd is those same people were proclaiming how we absolutely must do so 5 years ago.
RFK jr. and DJT, are simply NOT health authorities. Neither of them have any education or experience whatsoever.

Many of the ones during the pandemic did.
It's also odd that someone who compared government health authorities to a police state five years ago is now telling us to submit.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 9:47 am
Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 9:30 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 8:46 am Seems a lot of people are refusing to submit to government health authorities.

What’s odd is those same people were proclaiming how we absolutely must do so 5 years ago.
RFK jr. and DJT, are simply NOT health authorities. Neither of them have any education or experience whatsoever.

Many of the ones during the pandemic did.
It's also odd that someone who compared government health authorities to a police state five years ago is now telling us to submit.
I don’t see him saying that. Also, submit to what? It’s not like they are mandating Tylenol avoidance.
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Wesleyb wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:18 am Is it possible this will have a positive effect by introducing a scapegoat to replace vaccines as the cause of autism for the conspiracy minded? It seems to me scaring people off taking Tylenol during pregnancy would have far fewer negative consequences than scaring them off vaccines.
High fevers during pregnancy are more dangerous to the fetus than acetaminophen.

And of all the pain and fever meds, acetaminophen is considered by far the safest for pregnant women. Aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen, and other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs are all considered more dangerous. Which is why acetaminophen is the drug of choice for fever in pregnant women.

So women suffering through fevers rather than taking acetaminophen to control them during pregnancy (or swapping out for other drugs) poses greater risk than acetaminophen itself.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 9:30 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 8:46 am Seems a lot of people are refusing to submit to government health authorities.

What’s odd is those same people were proclaiming how we absolutely must do so 5 years ago.
RFK jr. and DJT, are simply NOT health authorities. Neither of them have any education or experience whatsoever.

Many of the ones during the pandemic did.
HHS, FDA. CDC, and so on are certainly “health authorities”.

Many of us questioned the credentials of people like Dr. Fauci but were told we had to blindly submit to “health authorities”.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 10:51 am
HHS, FDA. CDC, and so on are certainly “health authorities”.

Many of us questioned the credentials of people like Dr. Fauci but were told we had to blindly submit to “health authorities”.
No one said blindly submit the other way around either.

Do we have to distort everything to make points? Really?
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