Charlie Kirk Shot

[mike]

And that is why I must reject the movement, entirely. It is syncretism... Is seems hot and cold... It seems to be trying to serve God and man/mammon/power. A lot of that is unintentional - there may be mercy there, but that doesn't mean God's favor is on it. The Bible, especially NT suggests it might be worse than pure unbelief...

When you say 'the movement,' are you referring to the political right specifically? If so, do you reject the political left as well?

[Jazman]

I’m glad y’all fired God as being the judge of souls and conversions, He probably appreciates He can step down from that job since most Anabaptists are exceptional in standing in judgement of people they never met. Hah.

To the Anabaptists shame most of the world has no idea of their faith because they seem to care more about staying in their safe inner circles & families than getting out there to reach the list like Charlie. I have heard more talk of forgiveness and not returning hate based on Jesus’ words from those that some at his memorial so I would not be quick to assume conversions may not look like the Anabaptist sects of splits galore, but they just may have passed from darkness to Light.

but belief in a false christ, who seeks revenge, who hates his enemies, who does not forgive, will never lead to salvation.

Both the true Christ and the false were on display. With this fusion that this represents, it is hard to separate the two.

And that is why I must reject the movement, entirely. It is syncretism... Is seems hot and cold... It seems to be trying to serve God and man/mammon/power. A lot of that is unintentional - there may be mercy there, but that doesn't mean God's favor is on it. The Bible, especially NT suggests it might be worse than pure unbelief...

When I say unintentional, I'm saying some people (supporters, adjacent, sympathizers) are unintentional in their mixing... but the higher ups, the influencers, the politicos... many of them are intentionally trying to do the impossible, unholy mix...

[JohnH]

but belief in a false christ, who seeks revenge, who hates his enemies, who does not forgive, will never lead to salvation.

Both the true Christ and the false were on display. With this fusion that this represents, it is hard to separate the two.

???

Where was a "false Christ" on display?

[JohnH]

What a strange mix; the things that sounded like Jesus may have a good effect, but I think it (and comments here) reveal the tenuous coalition that is maga... Can it hold together if the parts within either pull towards Jesus or towards Trump/Miller?

You are aware Stephen Miller is not a Christian and has never claimed to be one, right?

[Judas Maccabeus]

but belief in a false christ, who seeks revenge, who hates his enemies, who does not forgive, will never lead to salvation.

Both the true Christ and the false were on display. With this fusion that this represents, it is hard to separate the two.

???

Where was a "false Christ" on display?

The “Christ “ that Mr. Trump appears to believe in.

[Valerie]

but belief in a false christ, who seeks revenge, who hates his enemies, who does not forgive, will never lead to salvation.

Both the true Christ and the false were on display. With this fusion that this represents, it is hard to separate the two.

???

Where was a "false Christ" on display?

He OBVIOUSLY didn’t watch the memorial service.

[Valerie]

but belief in a false christ, who seeks revenge, who hates his enemies, who does not forgive, will never lead to salvation.

Both the true Christ and the false were on display. With this fusion that this represents, it is hard to separate the two.

???

Where was a "false Christ" on display?

The “Christ “ that Mr. Trump appears to believe in.

Trump believes in justice being served. Utah still has the death penalty & I think you are forgetting some Scriptures regarding the governments role.

[Robert]

And unbeliever describes what he saw in the funeral...

It was not a funeral. That was held earlier that week. This was a Memorial "Celebration" of Kirk's life.

[Valerie]

And unbeliever describes what he saw in the funeral...

It was not a funeral. That was held earlier that week. This was a Memorial "Celebration" of Kirk's life.

He must have missed the video and article of what the Muslim woman said. Robert you are so patient.

[temporal1]

We are to love those who are involved in those sins just like we are love all other sinners, but we do not accept their sin.
If they are repentant, we disciple them and bring them into the church.
If they are unrepentant and are in the church, we remove them from the church.

^^Over decades, this has not changed. No matter political winds.