Is that something you made up?
Russia Invades Ukraine 2022
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Ken
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i think so. like it?
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i’m perfectly comfortable with an older, wiser, more docile Trump.
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This has been repeated often the last 3.5 years, but I think the reality of the last 7 months is showing us that neither the current administration nor the former administration has much power to do anything accept make big statements.
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A wee little man can’t say, I’m sorry. A big man owns his mistakes and apologizes.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.
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i appreciate 1 has made effort, and is continuing to make effort. To end killing.
Aug 7 / NY POST / Trump now ‘open’ to meeting with Putin without Ukraine’s Zelensky
https://nypost.com/2025/08/07/us-news/t ... mlin-says/
Aug 7 / NY POST / Trump now ‘open’ to meeting with Putin without Ukraine’s Zelensky
https://nypost.com/2025/08/07/us-news/t ... mlin-says/
His message is simple and consistent.“They would like to meet with me, and I’ll do whatever I can to stop the killing,” he added.
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i’m perfectly comfortable with an older, wiser, more docile Trump.
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
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It’s amazing how anyone could have a problem with this.temporal1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:26 am i appreciate 1 has made effort, and is continuing to make effort. To end killing.
Aug 7 / NY POST / Trump now ‘open’ to meeting with Putin without Ukraine’s Zelensky
https://nypost.com/2025/08/07/us-news/t ... mlin-says/His message is simple and consistent.“They would like to meet with me, and I’ll do whatever I can to stop the killing,” he added.
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Ken
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Well, his message has been anything BUT consistent on the war.JohnH wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:12 amIt’s amazing how anyone could have a problem with this.temporal1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:26 am i appreciate 1 has made effort, and is continuing to make effort. To end killing.
Aug 7 / NY POST / Trump now ‘open’ to meeting with Putin without Ukraine’s Zelensky
https://nypost.com/2025/08/07/us-news/t ... mlin-says/His message is simple and consistent.“They would like to meet with me, and I’ll do whatever I can to stop the killing,” he added.
But I don't think anyone has any problem with bringing the war to a negotiated settlement that both sides can agree on.
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i believe he’s been consistent since BEFORE Russia crossed the line. i appreciate it.JohnH wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:12 amIt’s amazing how anyone could have a problem with this.temporal1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:26 am i appreciate 1 has made effort, and is continuing to make effort. To end killing.
Aug 7 / NY POST / Trump now ‘open’ to meeting with Putin without Ukraine’s Zelensky
https://nypost.com/2025/08/07/us-news/t ... mlin-says/His message is simple and consistent.“They would like to meet with me, and I’ll do whatever I can to stop the killing,” he added.
this thing didn’t come out of the blue. both sides were ramping up.
he saw it and advised Z to avoid/prevent it. i appreciate it.
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i’m perfectly comfortable with an older, wiser, more docile Trump.
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So I haven't heard a proposal like this floated yet. Perhaps it is in the works and I haven't heard about it. Or perhaps it is not possible to do this. At the least it would stop the killing without Ukraine needing to cede territory.
Regarding a ceasefire in Ukraine.
Both sides agree to stop firing weapons at each other. Russia is allowed to maintain control of areas it currently controls. UN continues to acknowledge Ukraine's sovereignty. The stalemate is held until some future Russian leader agrees to recognize Ukraine's sovereignty.
Regarding a ceasefire in Ukraine.
Both sides agree to stop firing weapons at each other. Russia is allowed to maintain control of areas it currently controls. UN continues to acknowledge Ukraine's sovereignty. The stalemate is held until some future Russian leader agrees to recognize Ukraine's sovereignty.
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A wee little man can’t say, I’m sorry. A big man owns his mistakes and apologizes.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.
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Ukraine has stated they will not give up land and as far as I know, that includes what reality has already taken away.Ernie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:25 pm So I haven't heard a proposal like this floated yet. Perhaps it is in the works and I haven't heard about it. Or perhaps it is not possible to do this. At the least it would stop the killing without Ukraine needing to cede territory.
Regarding a ceasefire in Ukraine.
Both sides agree to stop firing weapons at each other. Russia is allowed to maintain control of areas it currently controls. UN continues to acknowledge Ukraine's sovereignty. The stalemate is held until some future Russian leader agrees to recognize Ukraine's sovereignty.
Besides both sides, just believe the other would rearm for future aggression.
That also doesn’t provide any security guarantee that Ukraine is requesting and there’s no incentive for Russia to agree.
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ohio jones
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Unfortunately, the history of the ongoing conflict in the region does not provide much hope for cessation of hostilities.
Wikipedia wrote:Between 2014 and 2022 there were 29 ceasefires, each agreed to remain in force indefinitely. However, none of them lasted more than two weeks.
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