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The Nun Criticizing Russia’s War
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Silentreader
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Re: The Nun Criticizing Russia’s War
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i’m perfectly comfortable with an older, wiser, more docile Trump.
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
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I hardly think we need Faith to believe that a few users are going to conditionally respond like Pavlov’s dogs.
Fortitude perhaps…
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Ken
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No, it doesn't apply to modern war.
How do you meet a missile strike blowing up your home from 500 miles away with sandwiches and drink?
Maybe you could take sandwiches and drink to the Kremlin and request a sit down with Putin. You think that would work?
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i feel guilty.
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i’m perfectly comfortable with an older, wiser, more docile Trump.
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
Re: The Nun Criticizing Russia’s War
Is that something you're doing yourself—meeting aggressors with food and welcome? If so, I’d honestly be interested to hear how that’s going.
What I don’t understand is why you're criticizing a nun who’s speaking out against a church’s support for military aggression. From everything I’ve seen, she isn’t promoting violence—she’s calling out the misuse of Christian witness.
Do you also object when people speak out against the October 7 attacks? Or against the mass suffering in Gaza? Faithfulness to Jesus, it seems to me, means bearing witness to all injustice—even when it challenges our own side.
I don’t think people here are saying the things you’re trying to put in their mouths. Could you respond to what they’re actually saying?
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1. Are we discussing the topic? Good.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
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I object when someone simply flips sides. I’m actually anti war and against using violence, even when justified, by Christians. And that includes orthodox nuns.
Has she spoken out against the Ukrainians using violence against Russian soldiers?
Has she spoken out against the Ukrainians using violence against Russian soldiers?
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Ken
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Yes she has.
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A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
Re: The Nun Criticizing Russia’s War
Let's see how much agreement there is on that statement with a poll: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8202
But let's also quote the sentence as a whole:
Do you agree or disagree with that?As Mennonites, we don't believe in "just war" theory. We don't divide wars into good ones and bad ones, or believe that violence becomes righteous if the cause is. We’re called to a different path—to reject violence, even when others see it as justified.
FWIW, "just war" theory is the official doctrine of the Catholic Church, and I think you are Catholic. In fact, it's even in the catechism:
https://www.vatican.va/content/catechis ... peace.html
Do you agree with the Catholic Church here?
FWIW, the nun in the OP is Orthodox. Their teaching is more complex, you can see a summary here:
https://www.saintjohnchurch.org/orthodo ... ng-on-war/
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1. Are we discussing the topic? Good.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.