Israel strikes Iran

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Szdfan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:22 pm
2. Trump Derangement Syndrome

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Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a pejorative term used to describe negative reactions to U.S. President Donald Trump that are perceived to be irrational and to have little regard for Trump's actual policy positions. The term has mainly been used by Trump supporters to discredit criticism of him, as a way of reframing the discussion by suggesting that his opponents are incapable of accurately perceiving the world.
It is also always taking anything Trump says or does in the most negative way then taking the statement or action to an outcome that has a very small chance of happening.

I heard a lady scream "I am loosing my rights!" This is just not true. No rights are being lost. AN adult can practice about anything that does not harm someone else. LBGT rights are not being taken away. They are just being put on par with other rights. Why does Pride month get a month? No one else does. "You" want a day, fine. Take a day, just not Easter. It is already taken.
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National Review / Iran Concedes U.S. Strikes ‘Badly Damaged’ Nuclear Facilities
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ira ... acilities/

The inane warring in the media does so much damage. Magnified on the internet.
Time is passing, good remedies have not been found.

Except the best: personal choice. avoid jumping on bandwagons.

These important lessons begin in the home. Always have.
Even in olden days my parents were serious about these things. They’d endured a lot, as did their elders.

Tech “advances” - users remain in primitive levels. History will laugh. Probably in disbelief.

Time will tell about the results of this strike.

Initial physical damage can be known right away. The rest will play out over time.

prayers for the Iranian people.
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Robert wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:01 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:22 pm
2. Trump Derangement Syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_der ... t_syndrome
Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a pejorative term used to describe negative reactions to U.S. President Donald Trump that are perceived to be irrational and to have little regard for Trump's actual policy positions. The term has mainly been used by Trump supporters to discredit criticism of him, as a way of reframing the discussion by suggesting that his opponents are incapable of accurately perceiving the world.
It is also always taking anything Trump says or does in the most negative way then taking the statement or action to an outcome that has a very small chance of happening.
In other words, exactly like Republicans act toward Democrats.
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Robert wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:01 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:22 pm 2. Trump Derangement Syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_der ... t_syndrome
Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a pejorative term used to describe negative reactions to U.S. President Donald Trump that are perceived to be irrational and to have little regard for Trump's actual policy positions. The term has mainly been used by Trump supporters to discredit criticism of him, as a way of reframing the discussion by suggesting that his opponents are incapable of accurately perceiving the world.
It is also always taking anything Trump says or does in the most negative way then taking the statement or action to an outcome that has a very small chance of happening.
I think Mike's right here:
mike wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:06 pm In other words, exactly like Republicans act toward Democrats.
How is this different from normal? There's an entire conservative media infrastructure that for decades has been dedicated to talking about Democrats and liberals in the worse possible way.

But Trump does say awful things all the time and it's not clear to me when I'm supposed to ignore him and when to take him seriously.
I heard a lady scream "I am loosing my rights!" This is just not true. No rights are being lost. AN adult can practice about anything that does not harm someone else. LBGT rights are not being taken away. They are just being put on par with other rights. Why does Pride month get a month? No one else does. "You" want a day, fine. Take a day, just not Easter. It is already taken.
Ok...let's talk about Easter 2024. I understand that lots of people are uncomfortable with any of LGBTQ visibility, but I'd like to know which of your rights was taken away when it shared the Trans Day of Visibility that year? How were you prevented from exercising your rights that day?

I think the outrage over this feels performative. The date for Easter changes each year, based on the first full moon after the spring equinox. Easter can happen anywhere between March 22 and April 25. TDOV, on the other hand, is fixed. Since 2009, it's always been on March 31. The "conflict" only happened because both those events coincidentally occurred on the same day.

So who here is asking for special privileges or rights?
  • Is it the group who's commemorative day happens on the same day every year?
  • Or is it the group whose day changes every year and demands that others accommodate it?
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:50 pm I think Mike's right here:
mike wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:06 pm
In other words, exactly like Republicans act toward Democrats.
At times. I am not loyal to Republicans and feel little need to defend them.

We can take this elsewhere if you really want to discuss Easter 2024. I feel no need, but happy to respond if you do. This thread is Israel attacking Iran.
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Sobering article:

Khamenei’s desperate narrative to deflect his inevitable overthrow by the Iranian people
https://english.mojahedin.org/article/k ... an-people/

Found on this page:

Iran News in Brief – June 28, 2025
https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/iran-n ... e-28-2025/
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:13 pm
Moses wrote: ↑Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:18 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:09 pm So…it doesn’t sound like the ceasefire is going particularly well and Trump is dropping the F-Bomb on TV about it.
In the unlikely event that the ceasefire holds for at least 30 days I wonder whether you will make any positive comments about Pres. Trump's role in it.
Why does it matter whether or not I say something nice about Trump? I still think it was a bad decision even if the ceasefire holds.
I don't know if it really does matter. If you only notice the negative things and never the positive things that says more about you than it does about him.
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