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More than 200 Nigerian Christians have been killed and another 20 medical students have been kidnapped in separate violent attacks by Islamist militants in Benue State, southeastern Nigeria, in recent weeks, the organization OpenDoorsUS reported.

In recent years, Christian areas in the region have been ravaged by Fulani Muslim attacks, as well as attacks by Islamic insurgencies, such as Boko Haram and the Islamic State's West Africa Province. More than 50,000 Christians have been killed in the past decade and a half, including dozens of Catholic priests.

Nathan Berkeley, a spokesman for the Religious Freedom Institute, said Nigeria is "the most dangerous place in the world to be a Christian."

"The numbers from Nigeria in just the last few years are staggering," Berkeley said. "In 2022, more than 5,000 Christians were killed and more than 3,000 kidnapped. In 2023, up to 8,000 Nigerian Christians were killed. Nigerian Christians are also regularly subjected to harassment and intimidation, even having their land taken away to force them to leave the region.

Despite these figures, Berkeley added, "the US government has refused to name Nigeria as a country of particular concern for religious freedom."

The liberal West turns a blind eye to Islamist violence, and many Christians ignore this reality, but here are the true martyrs of our Faith, as Tertullian said, "the seed of the Church."

"Our brothers have overcome it by the shed blood of the Lamb and by the message they proclaimed; they were not afraid of losing their lives, but were willing to die. Rejoice, then, you heavens, and you who live in them! But woe to those who live on the land and by the sea! For the devil, knowing that his time is short, has come down against you in his fury!" (Revelation 12:11-12)

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Thomas_muntzer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:49 am The liberal West turns a blind eye to Islamist violence, and many Christians ignore this reality, but here are the true martyrs of our Faith, as Tertullian said, "the seed of the Church."
Under the current political environment in the US, it's unlikely that any of these Nigerian Christians could come to the US as refugees.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:54 pm
Thomas_muntzer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:49 am The liberal West turns a blind eye to Islamist violence, and many Christians ignore this reality, but here are the true martyrs of our Faith, as Tertullian said, "the seed of the Church."
Under the current political environment in the US, it's unlikely that any of these Nigerian Christians could come to the US as refugees.
In practical terms, it's far more likely Islamic militants would have been admitted as "refugees" and would end up threatening Christians in the U.S., too, which is exactly what has been going on with the Somali community in my region. The people who are the most violent and powerful often have the most connections and money and are able to make it over, and then continue to run their rackets and abuse their fellow countrymen who are powerless.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:06 pm The people who are the most violent and powerful often have the most connections and money and are able to make it over, and then continue to run their rackets and abuse their fellow countrymen who are powerless.
do you think maybe that's what the natives in this land thought when the white people started invading their lands?
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:54 pm
Thomas_muntzer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:49 am The liberal West turns a blind eye to Islamist violence, and many Christians ignore this reality, but here are the true martyrs of our Faith, as Tertullian said, "the seed of the Church."
Under the current political environment in the US, it's unlikely that any of these Nigerian Christians could come to the US as refugees.
Exactly. You thought this administration cares about persecution of Christians? Think again

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/ ... rsecution/
ICE Goes After Church Leaders and Christians Fleeing Persecution

On Tuesday, Iranian asylum-seekers were detained in Los Angeles, adding to the count of church members taken despite lawful status.
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justme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:40 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:06 pm The people who are the most violent and powerful often have the most connections and money and are able to make it over, and then continue to run their rackets and abuse their fellow countrymen who are powerless.
do you think maybe that's what the natives in this land thought when the white people started invading their lands?
Yes. I doubt it feels good for any group of people to essentially be invaded and replaced by another group of people.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:54 pm
Under the current political environment in the US, it's unlikely that any of these Nigerian Christians could come to the US as refugees.
Yes, it's a shame that so many frauds in the asylum system have led to these Christian brothers and sisters having more difficulties applying for asylum in the United States.
However, I think if you asked them, most would tell you they prefer to live in their own country in safety and peace rather than emigrate.
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Thomas_muntzer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:52 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:54 pm
Under the current political environment in the US, it's unlikely that any of these Nigerian Christians could come to the US as refugees.
Yes, it's a shame that so many frauds in the asylum system have led to these Christian brothers and sisters having more difficulties applying for asylum in the United States.
However, I think if you asked them, most would tell you they prefer to live in their own country in safety and peace rather than emigrate.
I think that if we'd actually believed our rhetoric about persecuted Christians, we'd be more concerned about whether people lived or died than hypothetical fraud.

The US didn't shut down the asylum program because of fraud, it shut it down because people scapegoat foreigners.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 10:20 am
Thomas_muntzer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:52 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:54 pm
Under the current political environment in the US, it's unlikely that any of these Nigerian Christians could come to the US as refugees.
Yes, it's a shame that so many frauds in the asylum system have led to these Christian brothers and sisters having more difficulties applying for asylum in the United States.
However, I think if you asked them, most would tell you they prefer to live in their own country in safety and peace rather than emigrate.
I think that if we'd actually believed our rhetoric about persecuted Christians, we'd be more concerned about whether people lived or died than hypothetical fraud.

The US didn't shut down the asylum program because of fraud, it shut it down because people scapegoat foreigners.
Perhaps that's the reason the government shut down the asylum program.

If they wanted to leave Nigeria, they could go to more than 50 other countries with very good living conditions similar to the United States. I still insist they would prefer to live in their country of origin with peace and tranquility rather than emigrate. As Christians, while I believe that welcoming immigrants and helping them is an excellent decision, if we want to go a step further, we should do some missionary work in those countries
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 10:20 am I think that if we'd actually believed our rhetoric about persecuted Christians, we'd be more concerned about whether people lived or died than hypothetical fraud.
Are you saying that, as Christians, we should be lobbying the government to show other Christians special favors that they aren't extending to non-Christians?
The US didn't shut down the asylum program because of fraud, it shut it down because people scapegoat foreigners.
Thanks for sharing your political opinion.
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