Bunny Trails

[ken_sylvania]

I've changed diapers in a church building too, just not in the sanctuary. And changing diapers does have support in 1 Corinthians 15:51:

The only way that is support for changing diapers is if you identify as a diaper, seeing as it says "we" shall be changed.

OJV translates that "wee" shall be changed, referring to babes in Christ.

By the way, those fold-down tables you see in some restrooms ... are they diaper changing stations, or baby changing stations?

I figured that was where folks swap out their babies once they get tired of them...

[ken_sylvania]

Perhaps not a politician but a ruler certainly.

Ken is using a different definition of politician than I would.

One definition of politican: Someone actively engaged in conducting the business of a government, or someone who olds or seeks political office. Political office is a position of authority or responsibility in a government.

Genghis Khan formed and restructured governments, imposed laws, and united groups through negotiation, military force, and diplomacy. He was deeply involved in statecraft. I think that makes him a politician.

Moses judged civil disputes, created a legal code (the Torah), delegated authority, and negotiated relations with Pharaoh and neighboring nations. He organized the tribes under a structured system with judges and tribal leaders. He governed a nation, made law, and helped establish national identity. I think that makes him a politician.

Herod was also a politician.

Definitions are what you want to make them. Let's look at some modern examples of the point I was making:

In Britain: Keir Starmer, Rishi Sunak, Boris Johnson, and Teresa May are politicians. They seek votes and engage in politicking. King Charles and before him Queen Elizabeth were not. Even though all were engaged in the business of government. In fact, the British monarchs studiously avoid politics. They are above politics and remain as monarchs regardless of which party is in power.

In the US, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris are politicians. Chief Justice John Roberts and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are not. Even though all are engaged in the business of government and all have tremendous power. But just like the British monarchs, the Chief Justice and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs should studiously avoid politics. And should not be making their decisions and wielding their power to advantage one party or faction over another.

There are multiple ways that one can become a leader of a country or nation. One way is to engage in politics and seek election. Another way is through military might and conquest. A third way is through "divine right" inherited monarchy. King Charles did not gain his throne through politics. He was born to it. Likewise, during WW2, the Japanese didn't gain sovereignty over the Philippines and Burma through politics. They did so through military conquest. It was generals marching at the head of an army on behalf of their divine emperor.

By contrast, one can engage in politics and seek political office without seeking power. The elected school board members of small town school districts are politicians and engage in politics because they seek votes and get elected, but work as part-time volunteers in a thankless job. Doing work that is frankly little different from say a church elder or treasurer managing the operations of a church. And they aren't engaged in anything to do with war and peace, military force, law enforcement, or justice. They are just managing a public institution more or less the same way as anyone managing an equivalent private institution.

I think temporal1 got hacked. No way she wrote this.

Alternative explanation is it was written by AI.

[GaryK]

I wish I could easily add a daily posing limit, but it is just not easy to do with the current software.

You could ask for an "honor system" and optionally also have a dedicated message board for people who feel the need to go back and forth with each other. (Sometimes useful discussion happens that way.) I would be glad to participate in such an exercise.

in retrospect, i hope my suggestion was not misunderstood as any type of slight to justme. not at all.
her OP was fine, and not asking too much. i agree, such requests are based on the honor system. with varying results!

jm’s request is a good starting place.
every member has a different starting place .. and, i believe not everyone reads the OP before posting. topics bunnytrail. i may have been the worst of all at one time. i hope not so much anymore. that’s for others to judge.

no shame in learning curves. in this case, i imagine it would be a short curve. i have faith.
i don’t believe there are any dedicated miscreants present.

i want to clarify, no slight intended. far from it.

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i’m not sure what JohnH means wrt a message board. i’m not opposed, not sure what it is.
with or without, response might continue on the next day .. which often happens, anyway.

i’m unsure about what a limit would be. 7? 10? 3? 12?
3 might seem rigid to those with high post counts, 12 might seem too loose to matter to others.
i would accept whatever was chosen. i would try!

And no way HondurasKeiser wrote this. I think someone is playing April Fools jokes. Anyone want to hazard a guess who it was?

[HondurasKeiser]

I think I’ve been temporarily hacked.

[temporal1]

I think I’ve been temporarily hacked.

temporal-ly hacked?
i can’t think of anyone better to be hacked with.

[Ken]

Ken is using a different definition of politician than I would.

One definition of politican: Someone actively engaged in conducting the business of a government, or someone who olds or seeks political office. Political office is a position of authority or responsibility in a government.

Genghis Khan formed and restructured governments, imposed laws, and united groups through negotiation, military force, and diplomacy. He was deeply involved in statecraft. I think that makes him a politician.

Moses judged civil disputes, created a legal code (the Torah), delegated authority, and negotiated relations with Pharaoh and neighboring nations. He organized the tribes under a structured system with judges and tribal leaders. He governed a nation, made law, and helped establish national identity. I think that makes him a politician.

Herod was also a politician.

Definitions are what you want to make them. Let's look at some modern examples of the point I was making:

In Britain: Keir Starmer, Rishi Sunak, Boris Johnson, and Teresa May are politicians. They seek votes and engage in politicking. King Charles and before him Queen Elizabeth were not. Even though all were engaged in the business of government. In fact, the British monarchs studiously avoid politics. They are above politics and remain as monarchs regardless of which party is in power.

In the US, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris are politicians. Chief Justice John Roberts and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are not. Even though all are engaged in the business of government and all have tremendous power. But just like the British monarchs, the Chief Justice and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs should studiously avoid politics. And should not be making their decisions and wielding their power to advantage one party or faction over another.

There are multiple ways that one can become a leader of a country or nation. One way is to engage in politics and seek election. Another way is through military might and conquest. A third way is through "divine right" inherited monarchy. King Charles did not gain his throne through politics. He was born to it. Likewise, during WW2, the Japanese didn't gain sovereignty over the Philippines and Burma through politics. They did so through military conquest. It was generals marching at the head of an army on behalf of their divine emperor.

By contrast, one can engage in politics and seek political office without seeking power. The elected school board members of small town school districts are politicians and engage in politics because they seek votes and get elected, but work as part-time volunteers in a thankless job. Doing work that is frankly little different from say a church elder or treasurer managing the operations of a church. And they aren't engaged in anything to do with war and peace, military force, law enforcement, or justice. They are just managing a public institution more or less the same way as anyone managing an equivalent private institution.

I think temporal1 got hacked. No way she wrote this.

Alternative explanation is it was written by AI.

It was written by me obviously. I have no idea how Temp's name got attached. I didn't do anything different than I always do when replying to a post.

[justme]

It was written by me obviously. I have no idea how Temp's name got attached. I didn't do anything different than I always do when replying to a post.

you do realize that there were several posts that didn't appear to be written by the poster they were attributed to?
on april 1?
i'd be willing to guess "someone" was playing games.

[Ken]

It was written by me obviously. I have no idea how Temp's name got attached. I didn't do anything different than I always do when replying to a post.

you do realize that there were several posts that didn't appear to be written by the poster they were attributed to?
on april 1?
i'd be willing to guess "someone" was playing games.

Heh, I didn't put 2 and 2 together.

Good one!

[temporal1]

1972 / A busy year. Russia’s launch isn’t mentioned below.

i was young+busy, not paying attention to politics. i remember many of these things noted. and more.

Timeline of the Seventies, 1972
http://www.inthe70s.com/generated/time1 ... re%20items

This is a list of important events the occured during 1972. Exact dates are listed when known.
We also have pages on this topic devoted to the 80s and 90s

Vietnamization fails
The process of allowing South Vietnam to defend itself without US intervention proved to be a mistake, the 120,000 North Vietnamese soldiers stormed into South Vietnam, surprising the 6000 US troops still in the country.

Attempts for Vietnam peace fail
In October North Vietnam offered a comprimise if Communist troops were allowed to stay in South Vietnam, it wouldn't expell the South Vietnam government and try to reach a new agreement with them. The US agreed, and declared that peace "was at hand." Once Nixon was re-elected, Kissinger reversed himself on the issue of troops remaining and bombing of Hanoi resumed.

President Nixon visits China in February
Officialy opening talks between the two countries, which had been bitter opponents during the 60s.

Idi Amin orders all Asians out of Uganda
In order to distract the people from the collapsing economy, Idi Amin ordered all asian non-citizens out of the country and confiscated their businesses.

Bloody Sunday in Northern Ireland
13 protesters were shot by the British Army, touching off riots which led to the suspension of the Northern Ireland parliment.

Israeli athletes taken hostage/killed at Olympics
The PLO group Black September in revenge for the 1970 defeat of Palestinian guerrillas, broke into the Olympic Village and killed two coaches and took nine hostages. It later ended in the death of the hostages and the commandos as they tried to leave the country.

The european Airbus takes its maiden flight
The first European wide-body passenger plane, designed in part by five different countries. By 1992, the Europeans had gained 30 percent of the aircraft industry.

HBO (Home Box Office) subscription cable TV launch

First commercially successful game (Pong) released

Nike running shoes hit the market

George McGovern dropped his running mate
After it was revealed that his running mate, Thomas Eagleton had electric-shock therapy to treat depression, he was replaced by Sargent Shriver.

George Wallace shot while campaigning
While campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination, he was shot and permanently paralyzed. He was well known for physically barring black students from entering the University of Alabama in 1963.

Last Apollo mission to the moon

Richard Nixon visits the Soviet Union
Richard Nixon becomes the first US president to visit the Soviet Union and begins talks on arms control, penning the SALT I treaties, which restricted the development of nuclear arms and helped ease US-Soviet relations.

Anwar al-Sadat expells 15,000 Soviet troops

EPA bans use of DDT

Federal Express is founded

Supplimental Security Income (SSI)
Aid for the aged, blind, and disabled

Federal Election Campaign Act
Passed to limit campaign spending.

Watergate Burglary
The act that felled the President two years later, was committed in June of 1972 by five men, among them ex-FBI man G. Gordon Liddy and ex-CIA man E. Howard Hunt.

Clifford Irving pleads guilty to forgery
The novelist had complelty fabricated notes and "interviews" with Howard Hughes in an attempt to write an autobiography on the man.

Bobby Fischer beats Soviet Spassky
The 15 year old Chicago born chess prodigy openly took on the Soviets in an attempt to reverse the Soviet dominated chess masters.

First Jamican general elections held

The book, Joy of Sex, is released
The title is a take on the popular, Joy of Cooking, cookbook

Okinawa islands returned to the Japanese

Supreme Court rules against death penalty
Ruling 5-4, it determined the death penalty as it was administered, was cruel and unusual punishment.

Chinese pandas at the Washington Zoo
Chinese Giant Pandas HSING HSING and LING LING made their debut at the Washington Zoo in April of 1970, following Nixon's visit to China in February. The pandas were a gift from the chinese government as a gesture of peace and friendship between the United States and China. It also let us know about the plight of the panda and how it was in danger of becoming extinct. They were the first pandas to ever be introduced to a zoo in the United States.

ERA passed in the Senate
The ERA Amendment passed in the Senate.

The Wars Act
This was passed because Nixon authorized the invasion of Cambodia, Loas and later Hanoi and Haiphong. It requires that the president account for action within 30 days and taking troops into foreign wars.

E-Mail invented
In 1972 the first E-Mail program was invented by Ray Tomlinson of the BBN.

KKK riots in NYC and 3 people die
The KKK rioted in Central Park and 3 people died in the riot/protest.

Signing of Title IX
On July 1, 1972, Richard Nixon signed into law Title IX of the Education Amendments. Few people noticed at the time, but eventually it became the single greatest force for full participation of females in education, both academics and sports.

Martial Law declared in the Philippines
On September 21, 1972, then President Ferdinand E. Marcos declared Martial Law in the Philippines and suspended the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus.

Strong earthquake shakes Nicaragua
In 1972 Nicaragua was bracing for possible aftershocks to an earthquake measuring 5.9 degrees on the Richter scale that killed four people, injured at least 45 and caused widespread damage southeast of the capital, according to police. Then Nicaragua suffered a devastating 7.2-magnitude earthquake on December 23, 1972 that practically leveled Managua killing around 10,000 people, injuring 20,000 and leaving another 30,000 homeless.

First sucessful report of freezing embryo's.
First successful report of freezing mouse embryo's. They actually survived after being frozen!

Last man on the moon
Eugene Cernan Last man to walk on the moon. He was on Appollo 17 on December 1972.

[temporal1]

I think I’ve been temporarily hacked.

temporal-ly hacked?
i can’t think of anyone better to be hacked with.

Thinking back, this was your forum masterpiece!